Saintprudence The temptation to tell you that you need a belt is SO strong

Tell me.

Angelina our mother should have had the idea that her rules should also apply to her

She didn't think this way, but she was wrong.

Update. Mom talked to my aunt(her sister), showed her the belt. Aunt asked me to "get dressed" and said that she could take care about both of us if we wish. But she is also single and never married.

    Christine she could take care about both of us if we wish

    Does that mean complete chastity then with no masturbation allowed or only no sex? Or would the aunt decide that based on behaviour etc on the fly?

      Christine

      so your aunt would want both your mother and you to wear a belt? what do you think about this idea?

        Christine Tell me.

        You’re starting to sound like someone who wants to be convinced!

        Christine Aunt asked me to "get dressed" and said that she could take care about both of us if we wish. But she is also single and never married.

        Do you mean she formally requested that you put on your belt? And how did you react to that? I don’t see you easily stepping back into the belt after your hard-won freedom. Even if you probably need and deserve it.

          Saintprudence I don’t see you easily stepping back into the belt after your hard-won freedom. Even if you probably need and deserve it.

          i can't see that happening either, unless auntie makes a very good deal with both, besides @Christine has spent enough time in the belt, she doesn't need it, after many years in the belt she deserves freedom 😉

            curious Does that mean complete chastity then with no masturbation allowed or only no sex?

            Clearly no masturbation.

            Angelina so your aunt would want both your mother and you to wear a belt?

            Yes, to avoid possible conflict between us.

            Angelina what do you think about this idea?

            idk. Probably decline.

            Saintprudence Do you mean she formally requested that you put on your belt?

            No, just wanted to see how it looked on me.

            Saintprudence And how did you react to that? I don’t see you easily stepping back into the belt after your hard-won freedom

            No, it's not about wearing a belt for the purpose.

            Angelina i can't see that happening either

            Nothing. Just a conversation.

              Christine
              Well, I think it depends on your set of values. You said you actually started to actively care for your mother's chastity and not just out of revenge. So it appears you do share some of the values behind chastity, you just don't like the consequences for yourself. That is a double standard, not unlike the one your mother had when she kept you belted while she needed the belt at least as much.
              So your aunts proposal too keep both of you belted sounds actually like the right thing to do.

                curious

                i would even agree, but i also think of the long time @Christine has already had to spend in the belt and against her will. i don't think you can turn an involuntary wearer for years into a voluntary one within a few months.

                  Angelina
                  Well, that is the strange thing about chastity belts, I guess.
                  If it was me, I would decide that I want to follow what I think are my fundamental values. But I know that after some time in the belt I would probably get sexually desperate and would want to get out.
                  Knowing that is likely to happen, I would in the beginning decide that I should not be released, which means I would turn from voluntary wearer to unvoluntary wearer. But I knew this would happen from the start and I have made the decision that following my values is more important than being able to quit and get some pleasure if I get only desperate enough.

                    Angelina
                    Lately she wrote that it is no longer about giving her mother a taste of her own rules but that she actually cares about her chastity and considers it important.

                      curious

                      well, the question is how much i can believe that. i am currently doing a similar test with my father and i have to say that my only concern is that he understands how i feel and not that i want him to live chastely. it is hard for me to believe that, maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.

                        curious That is a double standard, not unlike the one your mother had when she kept you belted while she needed the belt at least as much.

                        No, it's not, coz there is the reason behind her belt.

                        curious So your aunts proposal too keep both of you belted sounds actually like the right thing to do

                        That's why I'm not sure.

                        Angelina he just wants to show her mother her own rules

                        If you are talking about abstinence, than yes.

                        Angelina and not that i want him to live chastely

                        Do you know about his relationships?

                        Angelina maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.

                        Explain what? I still don't understand your question. Why does my mom have to wear a chastity belt now? To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

                          Christine If you are talking about abstinence, than yes.
                          Christine Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

                          I think it would make more sense to set the same rule (in this case no masturbation either) and not just part of the rule that lead to you wearing the belt. Your mother¨s rule was no masturabation and no sex, picking only one part of that rule to apply it to her seems rather arbitrary to me.
                          But that¨s of course between the two of you (or your aunt if you accept her as keyholder).

                          What are the rules the aunt proposes? Abstinence only? Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?

                            Christine Mom asks all the time. Also about my relationships. She doubts my chastity.

                            Christine Angelina so your aunt would want both your mother and you to wear a belt?

                            Yes, to avoid possible conflict between us.

                            Ah. I understand now. Do you think your aunt is right? Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

                            Did you fight when you were the one wearing? (If you don't mind my asking!)

                              Christine Do you know about his relationships?

                              he had a few dates when i was little but the last date was 10 years ago

                              Christine To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

                              well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt. it is strange that you write that you want her to stop having sex, isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?

                                curious What are the rules the aunt proposes?

                                That I also have to wear my belt.

                                curious Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?

                                Complete chastity since our belts are good for it.

                                Jonas Do you think your aunt is right?

                                Yes, I'd rather give her mom's keys.

                                Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

                                Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

                                Jonas Did you fight when you were the one wearing?

                                Often.

                                Angelina but the last date was 10 years ago

                                And it's going on now. That's the difference.

                                Angelina well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt

                                I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

                                Angelina isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?

                                She was the person who has brought a chastity belts on the table. I only use the opportunity.

                                  Christine Jonas Do you think your aunt is right?

                                  Yes, I'd rather give her mom's keys.

                                  Ah-hah. But your aunt is wise, as she clearly doesn't want to fight with one of you either. So, she thinks it is better to keep keys for both...

                                  Christine Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

                                  Do you think your mom is starting to see how hard chastity can be?

                                  It can be pretty tough when you really want out and the belt says a firm "NO"!

                                  Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

                                  Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

                                  So would you wear your belt in order to keep the peace? 🤔

                                    Christine I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

                                    I think you look at it the wrong way.
                                    The belt is not a punishment for doing something wrong but a tool to make sure chastity as a value is achieved despite temptations and urges.
                                    The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
                                    Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?