Single again chastity

curious

Christine
Well, I think it depends on your set of values. You said you actually started to actively care for your mother's chastity and not just out of revenge. So it appears you do share some of the values behind chastity, you just don't like the consequences for yourself. That is a double standard, not unlike the one your mother had when she kept you belted while she needed the belt at least as much.
So your aunts proposal too keep both of you belted sounds actually like the right thing to do.

Angelina

curious

i would even agree, but i also think of the long time @Christine has already had to spend in the belt and against her will. i don't think you can turn an involuntary wearer for years into a voluntary one within a few months.

Christine

curious That is a double standard, not unlike the one your mother had when she kept you belted while she needed the belt at least as much.

No, it's not, coz there is the reason behind her belt.

curious So your aunts proposal too keep both of you belted sounds actually like the right thing to do

That's why I'm not sure.

Angelina he just wants to show her mother her own rules

If you are talking about abstinence, than yes.

Angelina and not that i want him to live chastely

Do you know about his relationships?

Angelina maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.

Explain what? I still don't understand your question. Why does my mom have to wear a chastity belt now? To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

curious

Angelina
Well, that is the strange thing about chastity belts, I guess.
If it was me, I would decide that I want to follow what I think are my fundamental values. But I know that after some time in the belt I would probably get sexually desperate and would want to get out.
Knowing that is likely to happen, I would in the beginning decide that I should not be released, which means I would turn from voluntary wearer to unvoluntary wearer. But I knew this would happen from the start and I have made the decision that following my values is more important than being able to quit and get some pleasure if I get only desperate enough.

Angelina

curious

But you have a positive basic attitude towards the subject of chastity, not @Christine, she just wants to show her mother her own rules

curious

Angelina
Lately she wrote that it is no longer about giving her mother a taste of her own rules but that she actually cares about her chastity and considers it important.

Renita

Saintprudence after your hard-won freedom

Sexual freedom?

Angelina

curious

well, the question is how much i can believe that. i am currently doing a similar test with my father and i have to say that my only concern is that he understands how i feel and not that i want him to live chastely. it is hard for me to believe that, maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.

curious

Christine If you are talking about abstinence, than yes.
Christine Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

I think it would make more sense to set the same rule (in this case no masturbation either) and not just part of the rule that lead to you wearing the belt. Your mother¨s rule was no masturabation and no sex, picking only one part of that rule to apply it to her seems rather arbitrary to me.
But that¨s of course between the two of you (or your aunt if you accept her as keyholder).

What are the rules the aunt proposes? Abstinence only? Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?

Angelina

Christine Do you know about his relationships?

he had a few dates when i was little but the last date was 10 years ago

Christine To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.

well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt. it is strange that you write that you want her to stop having sex, isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?

Christine

curious What are the rules the aunt proposes?

That I also have to wear my belt.

curious Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?

Complete chastity since our belts are good for it.

Jonas Do you think your aunt is right?

Yes, I'd rather give her mom's keys.

Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

Jonas Did you fight when you were the one wearing?

Often.

Angelina but the last date was 10 years ago

And it's going on now. That's the difference.

Angelina well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt

I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

Angelina isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?

She was the person who has brought a chastity belts on the table. I only use the opportunity.

Jonas

Christine Mom asks all the time. Also about my relationships. She doubts my chastity.

Christine Angelina so your aunt would want both your mother and you to wear a belt?

Yes, to avoid possible conflict between us.

Ah. I understand now. Do you think your aunt is right? Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

Did you fight when you were the one wearing? (If you don't mind my asking!)

Jonas

Christine Jonas Do you think your aunt is right?

Yes, I'd rather give her mom's keys.

Ah-hah. But your aunt is wise, as she clearly doesn't want to fight with one of you either. So, she thinks it is better to keep keys for both...

Christine Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

Do you think your mom is starting to see how hard chastity can be?

It can be pretty tough when you really want out and the belt says a firm "NO"!

Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?

Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.

So would you wear your belt in order to keep the peace? 🤔

curious

Christine I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

I think you look at it the wrong way.
The belt is not a punishment for doing something wrong but a tool to make sure chastity as a value is achieved despite temptations and urges.
The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?

Angelina

Christine I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

that's right, it was your mother's values, but if it's not your values, you can't really say that it's important to you that your mother can't have sex, you just want her to feel her own medicine

I would just like to comment briefly on the rest of the discussion. I call myself involuntary for 2 reasons. Reason 1: I cannot say no without negative consequences. Reason 2: I don't think chastity is good for me.
I don't want to comment on anything else because the discussion will divide the forum. Please be nice 🙂

Christine

Jonas But your aunt is wise, as she clearly doesn't want to fight with one of you either.

But she wants me to wear a belt too.

Jonas Do you think your mom is starting to see how hard chastity can be?

She is starting to see that her belt prevent what it's supposed to.

Jonas So would you wear your belt in order to keep the peace?

I don't think so.

curious The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?

First, but I don't need a chastity belt.

Angelina you can't really say that it's important to you that your mother can't have sex

Well, it was not important before, but she's convinced me.

Angelina you just want her to feel her own medicine

I wouldn't call it this way, she just needs a chastity belt.

Kaja

curious World is not bipolar, there is no yes or no, black or white.

For more than 99 % of people who want stay virgin is cb absurd and stupid solution. It take more that it gives.
For more than 99 % person who dont want to masturbate it is the same.

You have to every time weight up what profite and looses.

curious

Kaja
Right. And this website is dedicated to serious use of chastitybelts for the purpose of actually staying chaste and not just for some erotic play.

Kaja

curious But it is not mean that chastity belt is the best option for all around the world (or around this forum). Right?

curious

Kaja

Well, this website exists for the reason of people using chastitybelts for serious goals rather than fetish and sexual play. As your have made it more than clear that you are against any serious use, it is more than obvious that you are in the wrong place here.

Kaja

curious You lie. I never say that Im against serious usage. I respect Ines, I respect Natalia and others who wants it freedomly.

I only dont tolerate any type of force at this area.

Your attack to me will not hide that you normalise home violence, abuse and inhibit human rights.

And what you say in your last two posts had not any link to what I have said.

curious

Kaja
Again Insulting. I do not lie and I do not normalise home violence.
Serious use of a chastity belt means there will be times when the wearer does not have the choice to take the belt off. As long as the wearer has agreed to that upfront, this is part of the deal and not violence.
And if some people are making deals you would not make and then are bound by those deals and have to wear the belt partly involuntarily, this is what serious use is about.
If you can get a tatoo or branding you cannot undo, you can get yourself into a belt and then be stuck in it.
If after 3 weeks you hate the tatoo, it will still be there and you cannot easily remove it.
If after starting in chastity voluntarily and after 3 weeks change your mind, we'll, bad luck, if the agreement you made in the beginning is long term, you have to live with the belt because just like the tatoo it is then part of your life.
You will of course disagree and demand that you must be able to change your mind at any second. But this up front consent and giving up the right to change that upfront consent is what serious use is actually about.
It has nothing to do with violence but everything to do with making decisions that have consequences and actually face the consequences of decisions made.
You are probably too young and naive to realise that this is actually an important lesson life hopefully will teach you, because you have not learned it: Decisions have consequences and not everything can be changed back only because you cry "I do not want that anymore, I want to go back and pick the other option".

Ines

@curious , you are right in that A LOT OF TIMES @Kaja uses non adequate words.
You are totally right that really she does not understand the serious usage of the belt, (I said it to her a lot of times, too), but when she does not offend to other users, she can express her opinion, and sometimes, with some extreme user, (with troll perfume), she was extraordinarily necessary.

I am surprised too that she remains here, since serious usage is not her arena, but of course further actions for her hard words, I will not kick her out if she is respectful.

Kaja

Ines Thank you.

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