Single again chastity

Kaja I know some girls whose go to church and nobody of them wait to marriage

And then, being pregnant, they go to a church wedding in a white dress symbolizing spiritual purity and virginity...

Andrew Pregnant? Why? We know what contraception is

Kaja We know what contraception is

Unfortunately, theoretical knowledge does not always translate into practical application, which I have seen many examples of in teenagers...

Andrew Nobody of mi friends admit unprotected sex.

In the US we have a lot of places with abstinence only education, which I think would be fine if we also still had chaperones and courtship instead of dating.

But once you let boys and girls be alone together, you've basically given up on keeping them from going too far, so you need to teach them how to do it safely.

I feel like we would be just fine if we were serious about marrying as virgins, and we would be okay if we were serious about not worrying about it. (Not good, but okay. It would still be bad for the divorce rate.)

But instead we don't teach them OR supervise them, so we get all these diseases and pregnancies.

Joh You had only two choices. Break with your father or go along his dictate.

Of course, I never claimed his reasoning was correct, it's just an example of how to turn things around as you see fit

MissBlossom so you need to teach them how to do it safely.

I think this is the key point. It is not the job of the parents to protect them from every risk in their life. Later they have to stay on their own feet.
In my circle of acquaintances over the years, there was no one who had a child out of wedlock. I think it's because of the different way responsible behaviour is taught here.
Of course, there are just as many unwanted children here, but apparently fewer. Of course, this is just my subjective experience and point of view.

MissBlossom But once you let boys and girls be alone together, you've basically given up on keeping them from going too far

Are you not assuming that the parents have given them no guidance about going to far?

MissBlossom so you need to teach them how to do it safely.

Agree completely.

MissBlossom I feel like we would be just fine if we were serious about marrying as virgins

Yup.

MissBlossom But instead we don't teach them

Methinks you have it there.

Joh In my circle of acquaintances over the years, there was no one who had a child out of wedlock. I think it's because of the different way responsible behaviour is taught here.

I'm sure you're correct about your circle. I'm pretty sure in mine birth control has a lot to do with it.

Avery Are you not assuming that the parents have given them no guidance about going to far?

I think a large number of young people will give in to their hormones regardless of the quality of guidance they receive.

Sure, many will have the strength and character to resist, but why leave them alone with such temptation when we know that many will fall?

"Dating," where we just let a young couple go off alone, is older than most people currently living, but it's a pretty new thing. Chaperones only went out of style within the last hundred years or so.

Avery To the question of what would you do. My siblings are being taught that it’s best to wait until it’s a serious relationship so the act is meaningful.
However they are also taught that if they’re going to do it anyway, how to be safe. And the risk if they aren’t.
There’s no realistic way mom or even I can always be around them, so mom felt that’s the best option unless things get out of hand anyway

MissBlossom I don't have kids, so I don't have to do anything!

Sorry if I took it seriously.

Sasha To the question of what would you do. My siblings are being taught that it’s best to wait until it’s a serious relationship so the act is meaningful.
However they are also taught that if they’re going to do it anyway, how to be safe. And the risk if they aren’t.
There’s no realistic way mom or even I can always be around them, so mom felt that’s the best option unless things get out of hand anyway

Very sensible, methinks.

Sasha To the question of what would you do. My siblings are being taught that it’s best to wait until it’s a serious relationship so the act is meaningful.
However they are also taught that if they’re going to do it anyway, how to be safe. And the risk if they aren’t.

That is a good way to teachem how to do it right and safe and explain them all the risk.
Nowadays, I have the impression that not enough attention is paid to the fact that an unwanted pregnancy can also lead to the risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease or AIDS. Medicine has improved, but there is still a risk of permanent.

Joh depends a lot on where you are. I have friends who are teachers so I know their school do a pretty good job but I hear from them that kids who come in from other places are sometimes ignorant of such things to the point they think it should be a crime.

Angelina Of course, I never claimed his reasoning was correct, it's just an example of how to turn things around as you see fit

You mean you changed your view and acepted it becaus you could not change it.

Joh I don't think she has changed her view, but she accepted that her father had the power to make her live by his view even if she didn't agree with it.