Christine Not a good girl's behavior.

well, your mother can also behave in such a way that she is not a "good girl". your mother's arguments are not completely wrong from her point of view, but they also apply to her. πŸ˜‰

    Angelina your mother's arguments are not completely wrong from her point of view, but they also apply to her

    You're right, but I don't want her to wear a chastity belt, but get rid of mine.

      Christine You're right, but I don't want her to wear a chastity belt, but get rid of mine.

      understandable, but wouldn't it at least give you a little "satisfaction" if your mother also wore a belt and isn't this goal more realistic?

        Christine You're right, but I don't want her to wear a chastity belt, but get rid of mine.

        It could lead to her rethinking your situation and letting you out when she finds out for herself what it means.

        Angelina
        I do not know if her mother is married, but in my case I would talk to authority figures about her mother, grandparents, or boyfriend, and bring it up.
        It seems to me very unfair and very arbitrary.

          Christine You're right, but I don't want her to wear a chastity belt, but get rid of mine.

          Hi πŸ‘‹ I've noticed you're becoming less tolerant of it hey?
          Like earlier it was the shield - now complaints about the whole belt?

          What's going on with your mum is messed up - but you can get out yeah - just get it cut?
          Like if it's really not what you want change it!

          Or maybe find peace?
          Like you're wearing it anyway ... so forget mum don't let it be about her. Let it be something you're doing. I barely know for me so don't know what's possible for you but are you fighting it and not giving it a chance?

            Jen Hi πŸ‘‹ I've noticed you're becoming less tolerant of it hey?
            Like earlier it was the shield - now complaints about the whole belt?

            I think the same, and I am surprised that this situation continues.

            Angelina but wouldn't it at least give you a little "satisfaction"

            I wish it, but it's not realistic in this situation.

            Ines I do not know if her mother is married

            She is not.

            Ines about her mother, grandparents, or boyfriend, and bring it up

            I'm thinking about them.

            Jen Like earlier it was the shield - now complaints about the whole belt?

            No, the whole belt from day one.

            Jen Like you're wearing it anyway ...

            If it was just a bondage item, but it prevents things.

            Jen but are you fighting it and not giving it a chance?

            A chance for what?

              Christine I'm thinking about them.

              If they know about your situation I don't know how they allow her not to have to wear one.
              My husband took a long time to make the decision, but as he says "what is good for one is good for all".
              In the end, I am beginning to be convinced that it is better that the rules on this are set by the man of the house, they may be strict, but in the end they are fairer, like in my house we are all equal and we all have the same rules.

              Christine No, the whole belt from day one.

              As everyone here.

                Jen Like earlier it was the shield

                It was me.

                • Jen likes this.

                Christine A chance for what?

                A chance to feel peace and happiness about it. To know you're doing something special.

                Ines I do not know if her mother is married, but in my case I would talk to authority figures about her mother, grandparents, or boyfriend, and bring it up.

                well, @Christine is very financially dependent, I don't think it would do any good, she would have sexual freedom but no roof over her head. Besides, you can also simply break open a belt, so that shouldn't be the problem.

                Christine I'm thinking about them.

                I think it would be more important for you to find someone to support you until you are (financially) independent again. Is there no one else than your mother? if yes, then ask that person for help, break the belt and that's it.

                  Angelina

                  I know it is going to look like Laura hacked into my account, but I am not talking so much about Christine being released from her belt as there is no reason her mom should be allowed to not have one, especially if she is single.

                    Ines I know it is going to look like Laura hacked into my account

                    Or your uncles πŸ˜‚

                    Yolanda If they know about your situation I don't know how they allow her not to have to wear one.

                    Something worse. She told them as an achievement and no, nobody suggested one for her. Coz she has more credibility than me.

                    Angelina if yes, then ask that person for help, break the belt and that's it

                    Why would they help me since they support her decision?

                      Ines

                      Well, I'm just talking about what I would do. Christine is dependent and apparently can't get out of it at the moment, but she wants to get out of the belt. the conclusion for me would be to look for someone who supports her financially (and also in other areas) but does not ask for the belt in return

                      Christine Why would they help me since they support her decision?

                      who exactly are you talking about? Do these people know that your mother makes you wear a belt?

                        Christine Something worse. She told them as an achievement

                        Now that's interesting. Sure, I am rather naive here -- I don't know those relatives and their motivations -- but if your mother actually praised your belting as an achievement when talking to them, this sounds to me as a pretty logical starting point for the "Good for one single, good for all single"-argumentation. (Which should help her understand, what she actually demands, as a next step.)

                        I see that her seemingly higher credibility might be a complication at first. I understand her counter-argument against the belt is "I'd never indulge in sexual activities so I don't need a belt." But then again, everyone can and probably will use that argument at some time. Towards oneself or others. Apparently she believes to be sort of "above" carnal desires. Yet, given the way how the primal parts of our brains work, I'd argue that she is fooling herself and those relatives.

                        Throughout history, people claimed to be unaffected by desire, ... And despite all those words lost lives, their dignity, kingdoms, just everything, because of those nasty neurotransmitters, neuromodulators, neuronally effective hormones, ... It's biology. And people's ignorance, overbearance, their hubris, before the fall ...

                        You could start get into contact with those other relatives. The people to whom she extolled the achievement. Maybe you have to go on a 1:1 basis and take some time to lobby, persistently.

                        Jumping in with a snotty "I should get rid of the belt!" might leave you in a bad position, no doubt. Yet arguing "She [ Christine's mother] is as single and susceptible as I [Christine] -- despite what she tells. I'd accept easier if we both wear a belt for a certain 'trial' period controlled by reliable relatives" could give you some leverage IMHO.

                        I agree with the others above: Even if you eventually still want to get rid of the belt, your chances of succeeding are much higher IMO, if your mother has to taste her "achievements" herself, before. I'm pretty sure, she'd change her perspective in some way after experiencing belting on her own -- and it can't really become worse as it is now, could it?

                          Owl

                          Exactly, and as you say, if she is not weak towards sexuality, the because she does not want a belt that will make easier the task.

                          Christine Something worse. She told them as an achievement and no, nobody suggested one for her. Coz she has more credibility than me.

                          I think it's not your problem, and I don't think it's a problem of credibility, but of coherence.

                            Yolanda

                            I think you're right. On the same hand, I'd like to add: Credibility is often maintained through coherence… Which makes me think that the position of Christine's mother is not as robust as she thinks.

                            Ofc, Christine will need to build more support from family members, first. Particularly among those so influential and/or so numerous that they (alone or in conjunction with others) can exert some authority on her mother. Ideally this includes persons that were both qualified and willing to serve as potential future keyholders as well.