Single again chastity
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Angelina but wouldn't it at least give you a little "satisfaction"
I wish it, but it's not realistic in this situation.
Ines I do not know if her mother is married
She is not.
Ines about her mother, grandparents, or boyfriend, and bring it up
I'm thinking about them.
Jen Like earlier it was the shield - now complaints about the whole belt?
No, the whole belt from day one.
Jen Like you're wearing it anyway ...
If it was just a bondage item, but it prevents things.
Jen but are you fighting it and not giving it a chance?
A chance for what?
Christine I'm thinking about them.
If they know about your situation I don't know how they allow her not to have to wear one.
My husband took a long time to make the decision, but as he says "what is good for one is good for all".
In the end, I am beginning to be convinced that it is better that the rules on this are set by the man of the house, they may be strict, but in the end they are fairer, like in my house we are all equal and we all have the same rules.
Christine No, the whole belt from day one.
As everyone here.
Ines I do not know if her mother is married, but in my case I would talk to authority figures about her mother, grandparents, or boyfriend, and bring it up.
well, @Christine is very financially dependent, I don't think it would do any good, she would have sexual freedom but no roof over her head. Besides, you can also simply break open a belt, so that shouldn't be the problem.
Christine I'm thinking about them.
I think it would be more important for you to find someone to support you until you are (financially) independent again. Is there no one else than your mother? if yes, then ask that person for help, break the belt and that's it.
Yolanda If they know about your situation I don't know how they allow her not to have to wear one.
Something worse. She told them as an achievement and no, nobody suggested one for her. Coz she has more credibility than me.
Angelina if yes, then ask that person for help, break the belt and that's it
Why would they help me since they support her decision?
Well, I'm just talking about what I would do. Christine is dependent and apparently can't get out of it at the moment, but she wants to get out of the belt. the conclusion for me would be to look for someone who supports her financially (and also in other areas) but does not ask for the belt in return
Christine Why would they help me since they support her decision?
who exactly are you talking about? Do these people know that your mother makes you wear a belt?
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Christine Something worse. She told them as an achievement
Now that's interesting. Sure, I am rather naive here -- I don't know those relatives and their motivations -- but if your mother actually praised your belting as an achievement when talking to them, this sounds to me as a pretty logical starting point for the "Good for one single, good for all single"-argumentation. (Which should help her understand, what she actually demands, as a next step.)
I see that her seemingly higher credibility might be a complication at first. I understand her counter-argument against the belt is "I'd never indulge in sexual activities so I don't need a belt." But then again, everyone can and probably will use that argument at some time. Towards oneself or others. Apparently she believes to be sort of "above" carnal desires. Yet, given the way how the primal parts of our brains work, I'd argue that she is fooling herself and those relatives.
Throughout history, people claimed to be unaffected by desire, ... And despite all those words lost lives, their dignity, kingdoms, just everything, because of those nasty neurotransmitters, neuromodulators, neuronally effective hormones, ... It's biology. And people's ignorance, overbearance, their hubris, before the fall ...
You could start get into contact with those other relatives. The people to whom she extolled the achievement. Maybe you have to go on a 1:1 basis and take some time to lobby, persistently.
Jumping in with a snotty "I should get rid of the belt!" might leave you in a bad position, no doubt. Yet arguing "She [ Christine's mother] is as single and susceptible as I [Christine] -- despite what she tells. I'd accept easier if we both wear a belt for a certain 'trial' period controlled by reliable relatives" could give you some leverage IMHO.
I agree with the others above: Even if you eventually still want to get rid of the belt, your chances of succeeding are much higher IMO, if your mother has to taste her "achievements" herself, before. I'm pretty sure, she'd change her perspective in some way after experiencing belting on her own -- and it can't really become worse as it is now, could it?
I think you're right. On the same hand, I'd like to add: Credibility is often maintained through coherence… Which makes me think that the position of Christine's mother is not as robust as she thinks.
Ofc, Christine will need to build more support from family members, first. Particularly among those so influential and/or so numerous that they (alone or in conjunction with others) can exert some authority on her mother. Ideally this includes persons that were both qualified and willing to serve as potential future keyholders as well.
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Consequently, I'd sum up the following multi-pronged strategy that could lead to improvements on or the other way, over time:
- Build more trust and support from family members informed about "belting as achievement". Ask for their help to convince your mother to accept a joint belting period. Prepare good arguments for that. Ideally this includes most of those arguments, your mother addressed towards you, but UWC will probably help you to find more. And if such a period will help you both, if was just logical, if the rest of the family helps you in this.
- Independent from 1), try to somehow improve your ability to sustain yourself outside your mothers household. Ideally adding some qualification, something that could eventually lead to a source of income. Ideally one even your mother wouldn't object. (Unless she just wants you be depending ...) Sorry, if it was already discussed above.
If 1. works, It can have multiple results (multiple possible):
- 1a) Belting for some test period eventually gives your mother insight. It might or might not make her completely change her mind concerning your belting. But even if not, I'd expect she'll gain some more openness to reasoning over future terms.
- 1b) You might find develop a more positive attitude towards your own chastity. From a chastity community, this is the more "romantic" option. After the preceding events with your mother, It might take time, yet it has happened in several other cases.
- 1c) Plus a bit of "Tit-for-Tat"-gratification.
The benefits of 2. are obvious and probably already discussed. That tier obviously will take longer but should not hamper Tier 1,
Both together should eventually take you a few steps (maybe even more) towards a more enjoyable future.
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Owl From a chastity community, this is the more "romantic" option. After the preceding events with your mother, It might take time, yet it has happened in several other cases.
I love the way you phrase things, @Owl.
You are right, but listening to what she tells us, I think this case borders on abuse a bit.
If everything were "ideal" it is evident that @Crustine is better off with his belt, but I leave those kinds of conclusions to the eminent judge @Saintprudence and the stern trainee judge @Ines in the trials thread, where we all smile and do not harm to anyone.
The fact is that @Christine's situation is far from ideal, and it is a belt that should not exist.
And if the mother is so strict that she does not care about her daughter's will, then I really do not know why she doesnot wear one herself, because in the ideal world, she too would have hers like every woman.
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Ines
Thank you. Though I might need to work on that feeling of "post-posting-guilt" 
, which tends to arise after noticing I buried a thread under a wall of text 
again. ;-)
Concerning Christine's situation, I agree. It is far from ideal.
And I say that despite the general argument, that became sort of a motto of the forum: Consequent belting indirectly promotes to keep relationships vivid. This depends on the prospect if returning to single state would inevitably mean chastity (again) as well: If there is no allurement to indulge in the alleged or actual liberties of "single-sex life", breaking up holds no carnal incentive. Consequently the genuine reason of breaking up / divorce would only be to end an already failed relationship, which is legitimate in many cultures.
Getting back to Christine's situation, however: When I read reports about how her mother allegedly behaves and Christine's struggles with that, I still feel sort of sad. As it is now, I have difficulties as well, to see whether it's in Christine's interest, at the end. Rather it gives me a resonance of "this is not how it's supposed to be".
This and the conflict of wishing to improve the situation but a very limited ability to do so.
Laura Probably we don't see the whole picture since her relatives approve it
then i would pass the question on to @Christine, why do your relatives think what your mother is doing is good? another question, do you have any friends you could go to and who could support you to become independent again, i.e. bridge your financial problems until you can take care of yourself again?
Angelina who exactly are you talking about?
Who is supposed to rescue me from the belt.
Owl but if your mother actually praised your belting as an achievement when talking to them, this sounds to me as a pretty logical starting point for the "Good for one single, good for all single"-argumentation
Other single female relatives are not belted.
Yolanda I don't think it's a problem of credibility, but of coherence
Coherence? Please elaborate.
Angelina why do your relatives think what your mother is doing is good?
Coz it works as intended.
Angelina do you have any friends you could go to and who could support you to become independent again, i.e. bridge your financial problems until you can take care of yourself again?
Nobody would do it without having something back. Only a boyfriend.