Single again chastity

Mithras If I where a middle aged husband with a lovely wife and a teenager curious about life

Mithras the same weekly maintanance with paddle

Mithras I don´t see regular maintance as punishment, but more as a reminder to behave according to the rules.

And any man who unilaterally imposes such rules is an abuser. As part of a consensual D/s relationship, sure, but we are definitely talking enthusiastic consent here. Anything else is not discipline, it is domestic violence, and it reeks of "putting the broad in her place".

And with a daughter involved, the dependency relationship pretty much rules out any way of determining if consent is truly enthusiastic and given freely. So no... maintenance discipline on a daughter is just a big no-no.

And while I would equally vehemently disagree with forced (i.e. non-consensual, not merely enforced) chastity or corporal punishment in all but the most extreme circumstances, I can at least sort of see how those could be justified under a somewhat different value system as averting a greater evil. On the other hand, any value system where there are evils greater than such forms of discipline that this discipline defends from is so alien to me that I do not dare entertain the thought of such a thing being in any way acceptable.

Christine Order a belt for myself? it defeats the whole idea.

You can start with this.

What a commotion!! May I respond to all these accusations please.
• First and most important, I simply forgot a sentence like "would have urged them to accept a belt..." I honestly assumed that it is a general consensus here that no one is forced to wear the belt, although it is often presented here that some actually do not want the chastitybelt, but for this or that reason still wear it, even if reluctantly.
And unlike some ladies who post here, this would not be combined with blackmail like "If you don't accept the belt, you won't get a car or I wohnt pay your rent".
• Secondly, I often read here in the forum about girls of different ages accepting maintance from their parents, sometimes even from the father watching the daughter shower - the insinuation of sexual backgrounds shows that there is a double standard here.
• Third, in real life I am not a middle-aged father, but in my mid-60s, married and childless (but always with cats!).
• Fourth and last: I have been dealing with the topic of chastity belts for manyyears, because I am fascinated why someone more or less voluntarily accepts this control over their own body; I myself have since gained experience in this direction with many chastitycages and a few chastity belts.

I hope to be able to smooth the waters somewhat with my explanations.

Saintprudence , I hope you're ready for about six months of messages along the lines of "so when do you belt back up?" once your marriage is complete .

haha, no chance, but if I do it, you will be the first to know.

Christine @Saintprudence explained below, coz I don't want her to hold my keys.

yes, i understand that, may i say that i am still surprised that your mother is voluntarily participating in all this, because actually she should have worn a belt long ago when she forced you to do so

Mithras

i think we should come back to another point and that is the double standards here. personally, i don't make a distinction between son/daughter and father/mother, i.e. i don't make a distinction according to gender. i clearly make a distinction between parents and children, there are hierarchies in families, which is why i find children who have their parents' keys strange. however, i have keys myself, because (and here comes my exception), if parents force their children to wear a belt, then the parents themselves should also notice how it feels.

Mithras ut mostly don’t want your mother as keyholder?

Right. Coz she is too obsessed with it.

Mithras And don’t kill me now, but I think it would only be fair if you also wore a belt

I agree, it's unfair now. And I can't prove, that I don't sleep with guys since I'm not a virgin.

Mithras Maybe you need to find a trustworthy keyholder for both your keys?

It means embarrassing her.

Renita You can start with this.

I started a long time ago.

Angelina i am still surprised that your mother is voluntarily participating in all this

I wouldn't say voluntarily.

Angelina because actually she should have worn a belt long ago when she forced you to do so

But I was in different position and couldn't suggest it.

Christine But I was in different position and couldn't suggest it.

yes, that's true, but she couldn't have done more than say no, she could have done the same now. besides, it would certainly have been easier for you if your mother had kept the rules she imposed on you herself. i would have found it even more sensible back then than now.

Christine I wouldn't say voluntarily.

Why not? I was under the I pression she could stop wearing any time, but of course at the cost of demonstrating a lack of commitment to her own rules. Or have you arrived at a point where she is an Involuntary wearer but you are not letting her out, no matter what?

Angelina but she couldn't have done more than say no

She could have said that I was not in sense.

curious Why not?

She is trying to avoid the belt.

curious I was under the I pression she could stop wearing any time

Yes, she can.

Laura Why?

Coz the first question would be why she has to wear a chastity belt.

Laura Does anyone else in the family know about her belt?

Not in my knowledge. Probably her ex-partners know.

Christine And I can't prove, that I don't sleep with guys

Does anyone ask?

Christine It means embarrassing her.

She is a single as you. She doesn't have to explain her previous behavior.

Christine why she has to wear a chastity belt

Obviously to prevent random sex.

Renita Does anyone ask?

Mom asks all the time. Also about my relationships. She doubts my chastity.

Angelina why didn't she wear a belt 3 years ago, but now?

No one asked her to wear a chastity belt and I had no idea, that she needed one more than me.

Christine Mom asks all the time. Also about my relationships. She doubts my chastity.

The temptation to tell you that you need a belt is SO strong but I’ll be good, lol.

Christine No one asked her to wear a chastity belt and I had no idea, that she needed one more than me.

well, you were not in a position to demand that, on the other hand, your mother should have had the idea that her rules should also apply to her.

Christine She doubts my chastity.

And she seems right.

Christine she could take care about both of us if we wish

Does that mean complete chastity then with no masturbation allowed or only no sex? Or would the aunt decide that based on behaviour etc on the fly?

Christine

so your aunt would want both your mother and you to wear a belt? what do you think about this idea?

Christine Tell me.

You’re starting to sound like someone who wants to be convinced!

Christine Aunt asked me to "get dressed" and said that she could take care about both of us if we wish. But she is also single and never married.

Do you mean she formally requested that you put on your belt? And how did you react to that? I don’t see you easily stepping back into the belt after your hard-won freedom. Even if you probably need and deserve it.

Saintprudence I don’t see you easily stepping back into the belt after your hard-won freedom. Even if you probably need and deserve it.

i can't see that happening either, unless auntie makes a very good deal with both, besides @Christine has spent enough time in the belt, she doesn't need it, after many years in the belt she deserves freedom