Single again chastity
well, the question is how much i can believe that. i am currently doing a similar test with my father and i have to say that my only concern is that he understands how i feel and not that i want him to live chastely. it is hard for me to believe that, maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.
curious That is a double standard, not unlike the one your mother had when she kept you belted while she needed the belt at least as much.
No, it's not, coz there is the reason behind her belt.
curious So your aunts proposal too keep both of you belted sounds actually like the right thing to do
That's why I'm not sure.
Angelina he just wants to show her mother her own rules
If you are talking about abstinence, than yes.
Angelina and not that i want him to live chastely
Do you know about his relationships?
Angelina maybe @Christine can explain it again in more detail.
Explain what? I still don't understand your question. Why does my mom have to wear a chastity belt now? To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.
I think it would make more sense to set the same rule (in this case no masturbation either) and not just part of the rule that lead to you wearing the belt. Your mother¨s rule was no masturabation and no sex, picking only one part of that rule to apply it to her seems rather arbitrary to me.
But that¨s of course between the two of you (or your aunt if you accept her as keyholder).
What are the rules the aunt proposes? Abstinence only? Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?
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Christine Mom asks all the time. Also about my relationships. She doubts my chastity.
Yes, to avoid possible conflict between us.
Ah. I understand now. Do you think your aunt is right? Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?
Did you fight when you were the one wearing? (If you don't mind my asking!)
Christine Do you know about his relationships?
he had a few dates when i was little but the last date was 10 years ago
Christine To prevent sex with her boyfriends. Why do I care? Coz it was her expectation from me.
well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt. it is strange that you write that you want her to stop having sex, isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?
curious What are the rules the aunt proposes?
That I also have to wear my belt.
curious Or complete chastity including no masturbation allowed?
Complete chastity since our belts are good for it.
Jonas Do you think your aunt is right?
Yes, I'd rather give her mom's keys.
Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?
Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.
Jonas Did you fight when you were the one wearing?
Often.
Angelina but the last date was 10 years ago
And it's going on now. That's the difference.
Angelina well, you have written many times how much you hate the belt
I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.
Angelina isn't it really more about revenge or her getting her "own medicine"?
She was the person who has brought a chastity belts on the table. I only use the opportunity.
Ah-hah. But your aunt is wise, as she clearly doesn't want to fight with one of you either. So, she thinks it is better to keep keys for both...
Christine Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.
Do you think your mom is starting to see how hard chastity can be?
It can be pretty tough when you really want out and the belt says a firm "NO"!
Jonas Do you think you and your mom would fight about this?
Ofc, I guess she hates her belt as much as I did.
So would you wear your belt in order to keep the peace? 
Christine I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.
I think you look at it the wrong way.
The belt is not a punishment for doing something wrong but a tool to make sure chastity as a value is achieved despite temptations and urges.
The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?
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curious World is not bipolar, there is no yes or no, black or white.
For more than 99 % of people who want stay virgin is cb absurd and stupid solution. It take more that it gives.
For more than 99 % person who dont want to masturbate it is the same.
You have to every time weight up what profite and looses.
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curious You lie. I never say that Im against serious usage. I respect Ines, I respect Natalia and others who wants it freedomly.
I only dont tolerate any type of force at this area.
Your attack to me will not hide that you normalise home violence, abuse and inhibit human rights.
And what you say in your last two posts had not any link to what I have said.
@curious , you are right in that A LOT OF TIMES @Kaja uses non adequate words.
You are totally right that really she does not understand the serious usage of the belt, (I said it to her a lot of times, too), but when she does not offend to other users, she can express her opinion, and sometimes, with some extreme user, (with troll perfume), she was extraordinarily necessary.
I am surprised too that she remains here, since serious usage is not her arena, but of course further actions for her hard words, I will not kick her out if she is respectful.
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Kaja
Again Insulting. I do not lie and I do not normalise home violence.
Serious use of a chastity belt means there will be times when the wearer does not have the choice to take the belt off. As long as the wearer has agreed to that upfront, this is part of the deal and not violence.
And if some people are making deals you would not make and then are bound by those deals and have to wear the belt partly involuntarily, this is what serious use is about.
If you can get a tatoo or branding you cannot undo, you can get yourself into a belt and then be stuck in it.
If after 3 weeks you hate the tatoo, it will still be there and you cannot easily remove it.
If after starting in chastity voluntarily and after 3 weeks change your mind, we'll, bad luck, if the agreement you made in the beginning is long term, you have to live with the belt because just like the tatoo it is then part of your life.
You will of course disagree and demand that you must be able to change your mind at any second. But this up front consent and giving up the right to change that upfront consent is what serious use is actually about.
It has nothing to do with violence but everything to do with making decisions that have consequences and actually face the consequences of decisions made.
You are probably too young and naive to realise that this is actually an important lesson life hopefully will teach you, because you have not learned it: Decisions have consequences and not everything can be changed back only because you cry "I do not want that anymore, I want to go back and pick the other option".
curious Again Insulting.
@Kaja's style of speech (full of abruptness and radicalism of judgment) is appropriate for her age. It can be irritating at times, but it usually gets to the heart of the matter.
curious If after starting in chastity voluntarily and after 3 weeks change your mind, we'll, bad luck, if the agreement you made in the beginning is long term, you have to live with the belt because just like the tatoo it is then part of your life.
No, she doesn't have to. She can just break the contract at any time and not put the belt back on or call the police if the keyholder doesn't give her the key to take the belt off. Therefore, a sane keyholder will not pressure anyone to wear a belt at all costs when sees the wearer's desperation.
All the "involuntary" wearing of the belt you write about is really a form of voluntary wearing, only reluctantly, aimed at keeping the contract.
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Andrew
Nobody on this forum is actually a completely Involuntary wearer by that definition.
All have some Form of motivation to continue in the belt, be it financial or emotional motivations.
But nobody here (as far as I have read) has been physically forced to wear the belt. So we can stop complaining about abuse and Involuntary belting even in the more extreme cases, right?
And no, her age might explain her judgemental and abrupt speech, it does not make it appropriate. It simply indicates that she did not have the necessary sophistication and education how to behave herself appropriately. While I often disagree with @Ines and her English isn't the best either, she actually shows a way more respectful manner in the way she writes.
But then, maybe the whole dispute how a chastity belt is approached is actually an issue that is connected to social classes? Higher classes tend to be more conservative, value certain behaviour much higher than lower classes and part of that conservative value system is stricter focus on serious chastity, which of course people from lower classes see as bad and want to fight, because it against their egalitarian views?
curious completely Involuntary wearer by that definition.
In fact, this was widely discussed some years ago. And I agree with that.
In general, I think that girls that talk about strictly forced belting, are trolls.
curious So we can stop complaining about abuse and Involuntary belting even in the more extreme cases, right?
No, extreme cases are not welcome here, I can accept a bit of group pressure, or encourage of belting, but emotional payback or physical pressure is unacceptable.