Avery Too bad the belt is sometimes misused.
I guess people often aren't very good with such crazy amounts of power and often end up trying to deal with their own issues via control of another person.
As to Jen, yeah, fantastic. She wrested back control at the outset, but incredibly then didn't reject the whole idea out of hand. Again; the maturity here on the forum really does often seem to be with the young adults rather than the parents!
Jonas Yeah, but I think it's not just about setting a good example or understanding how a belt feels etc. It's hypocritical and unhealthy for people to apply rules to others that they don't then apply to themselves.
that is true, but does not contradict me
the only way in my opinion would be if the parents get permission from the court beforehand. I don't speak for all countries here, but from a legal point of view only a court can order measures involving deprivation of liberty
bdsamm Please note the recent case of Britney Spears.
OMG please not this example. I understand the background, but from my point of view both (both Britney and her father) belong under guardianship as both have severe mental disorders from my point of view
Christine Not yet, just measurements.
okay, that sounds different. please keep us up to date 
Angelina both (both Britney and her father) belong under guardianship as both have severe mental disorders from my point of view
They probably do, but if we appointed conservators for every mentally disordered celebrity, we would run out of both conservators and free celebrities. The barrier to interfering in a person's autonomy should be very, very high.
youdontknowme My point (as vague as it was) is that if you have enough money, lawyers, experts, and time, a father could possibly get a court order to put a chastity belt on his daughter. That is not right but it is one of the flaws in the system. (there are lots of others.0 tThis is not something I am recommending and in fact would be seriously opposed to but it is part of the system we have (that needs improvement.
I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.
it seemed that some on here thought I was holding the Spears case up as a good example.
bdsamm
Yes.
In the end it is the mother who manages the girls' belt.
So there is no excuse for a woman who believes in and participates in seat belting for her daughters not to wear one.
In the end, when the rules are set, it is only fair if everyone has the same ones, so the mother and daughters must wear it.
Another thing is the girls, we do not set any rules, so we are not obliged.
And if the mother does not want to, it must be the father who makes justice prevail, as @Rafael did or the father of @kat_anders or @Abby82 .
Christine Abstinence, but not yet.
That sounds like Saint Augustine of Hippo:
Lord, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet.
youdontknowme They probably do, but if we appointed conservators for every mentally disordered celebrity, we would run out of both conservators and free celebrities. The barrier to interfering in a person's autonomy should be very, very high.
bdsamm I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.
all right, you're both right. it's just that in this example a woman who has extreme mental problems was put under the guardianship of a man who also has mental problems. that's exactly what should be prevented. i see a similar situation here as with @Lukas' sister and her parents.
Ines And if the mother does not want to, it must be the father who makes justice prevail, as @Rafael did or the father of @kat_anders or @Abby82 .
yes and that's a good thing, when the mother is looking for excuses, a good father has to intervene and create the balance. 
Christine Abstinence, but not yet.
so no sex, but occasional breaks to masturbate? why does she get looser rules than you?
curious When is this supposed to start?
idk. She is trying to avoid.
curious And what rules are there about duration
As long as she is single.
curious and being able to cancel?
Yes, at any time.
Angelina why does she get looser rules than you?
Coz that's not my goal.
Renita Then she should wear an abstinence belt
Non-penetrative sex.
Ines Mother's man.
You mean lover? I want to prevent it.
Christine Yes, at any time.
When she can can El any time, she will do that when she fi d's a lover or wants sex. So unless there are strict rules in place about not being able to cancel whenever you just feel like it, the belt is not doing anything apart from maybe being annoying to wear but no other (positive) effect.
Angelina i figured she was looking for a way to make it less hard for her, you should write down clear rules for both of you to follow if she says yes to the belt.
I agree with Angelina. And as far as I understand the issue, it is about same rules applying to her that she had for you.
If I remember corretly that would mean 24/7 locked up without any chance for sexual relief for as long as she is not engaged or even married. At least that is what I understood were her rules you had to follow when living with her. Or am I mistaken?
