bdsamm I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.

You won't get lynched in the US. What you said is undeniably true here.

it seemed that some on here thought I was holding the Spears case up as a good example.

bdsamm
Yes.
In the end it is the mother who manages the girls' belt.
So there is no excuse for a woman who believes in and participates in seat belting for her daughters not to wear one.
In the end, when the rules are set, it is only fair if everyone has the same ones, so the mother and daughters must wear it.
Another thing is the girls, we do not set any rules, so we are not obliged.
And if the mother does not want to, it must be the father who makes justice prevail, as @Rafael did or the father of @kat_anders or @Abby82 .

    Christine Abstinence, but not yet.

    When is this supposed to start?
    And what rules are there about duration and being able to cancel?

      Christine Abstinence, but not yet.

      That sounds like Saint Augustine of Hippo:

      Lord, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet.

      youdontknowme They probably do, but if we appointed conservators for every mentally disordered celebrity, we would run out of both conservators and free celebrities. The barrier to interfering in a person's autonomy should be very, very high.

      bdsamm I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.

      all right, you're both right. it's just that in this example a woman who has extreme mental problems was put under the guardianship of a man who also has mental problems. that's exactly what should be prevented. i see a similar situation here as with @Lukas' sister and her parents.

      Ines And if the mother does not want to, it must be the father who makes justice prevail, as @Rafael did or the father of @kat_anders or @Abby82 .

      yes and that's a good thing, when the mother is looking for excuses, a good father has to intervene and create the balance. 😉

      Christine Abstinence, but not yet.

      so no sex, but occasional breaks to masturbate? why does she get looser rules than you?

        curious When is this supposed to start?

        idk. She is trying to avoid.

        curious And what rules are there about duration

        As long as she is single.

        curious and being able to cancel?

        Yes, at any time.

        Angelina why does she get looser rules than you?

        Coz that's not my goal.

        Renita Then she should wear an abstinence belt

        Non-penetrative sex.

        Ines Mother's man.

        You mean lover? I want to prevent it.

          Christine You mean lover? I want to prevent it.

          Or someone that watch for her. Parents, or maybe a brother.

            Christine Yes, at any time.

            When she can can El any time, she will do that when she fi d's a lover or wants sex. So unless there are strict rules in place about not being able to cancel whenever you just feel like it, the belt is not doing anything apart from maybe being annoying to wear but no other (positive) effect.

              Christine

              i figured she was looking for a way to make it less hard for her, you should write down clear rules for both of you to follow if she says yes to the belt. 😉

                Angelina i figured she was looking for a way to make it less hard for her, you should write down clear rules for both of you to follow if she says yes to the belt. 😉

                I agree with Angelina. And as far as I understand the issue, it is about same rules applying to her that she had for you.
                If I remember corretly that would mean 24/7 locked up without any chance for sexual relief for as long as she is not engaged or even married. At least that is what I understood were her rules you had to follow when living with her. Or am I mistaken?

                  Angelina yes and that's a good thing, when the mother is looking for excuses, a good father has to intervene and create the balance. 😉

                  Although for work reasons I don't come here that often, I can tell you that my mistake was not having introduced the chastity belt much earlier.

                    Rafael I can tell you that my mistake was not having introduced the chastity belt much earlier.

                    Agree. However even your elder daughter does not wear it, your family had a good outcome.

                    Rafael I can tell you that my mistake was not having introduced the chastity belt much earlier.

                    well, through @Ines and her family you already knew about the belt, why did you wait so long?

                      Ines Or someone that watch for her. Parents, or maybe a brother.

                      Yes, there are relatives who would be interested in this, but they would expect the same for me. I doubt that they even know that I don't wear a belt anymore.

                      curious she will do that when she fi d's a lover or wants sex.

                      She only can cancel it for good.

                      Angelina i figured she was looking for a way to make it less hard for her

                      She was looking for a way not to wear it at all, coz she knows, that no sex is possible with belt on.
                      Now she swears she doesn't sex, but I have evidence.

                      curious If I remember corretly that would mean 24/7 locked up without any chance for sexual relief for as long as she is not engaged or even married. At least that is what I understood were her rules you had to follow when living with her.

                      Yes, but my rules would be different.

                        Christine Yes, there are relatives who would be interested in this, but they would expect the same for me. I doubt that they even know that I don't wear a belt anymore.

                        If they are pro-belt it is very logical they want both of you wearing it.

                          Christine Yes, but my rules would be different.

                          Which rules do you have in mind?