Angelina so at least in germany it is not possible for the parents to do something like that

That's actually wrong.
A psychiatric clinic is for dealing with mentally ill patients and the criteria for a someone being admitted to a locked down ward where he / she cannot leave is based on the risk of harming oneself or another person.
This is completely different from guardianship. Like parents are the legal guardians of their u der age children, a court can appoint a guardian for a person over the legal age of maturity (18 in Germany) and whether or not strong measures taken by a guardian are acceptable is always a case by case decision.
You could for example argue that normally putting someone in a belt should be illegal, but this again would be determined based on an individual case. If a guardian can, for example, demonstrate he havs exhausted less restrictive measures and was unable to achieve the necessary control to actually protect the person under Guardiansip, a court might well rule that use of a cb was actually justified.

      curious They were appointed to that role for her reason, so if it came to such a trial, that would also hinge on whether sexually irresponsible behavior led (or at least contributed) to her self-harm, or whether her parents were reasonable in their assumption that it did.

          youdontknowme
          Exactly.
          I any case it is impossible to predict what a court decision would be without knowing each and every detail of that case.

            Please note the recent case of Britney Spears. Her Father got himself appointed Guardian for her and was able to have an IUD inserted and prevent her from having it removed. She dealth with this situation for several years. And she is an adult. It took her years to get released from that Guardianship. Maybe a Chastity Belt is not so far fetched????

              Jonas You know, I really hope she does it. Her rules should apply to her too.

              Or she can get married instead.

              Angelina but then she didn't expect anything in return if she wore a belt?

              She always expects it.

              Angelina so she decided to wear a belt, has it been ordered yet?

              Not yet, just measurements.

              Angelina who gets the keys?

              Me.

              bdsamm unless she is incapacited for some reason she is capable of living on her own and making her own decisions

              I live on my own now.

              bdsamm As to Mother wearing a belt, what does that have to do with anything in this case?

              Prevent sex, ofc.

              Ines Mothers do not have any excuse to avoid wear the the belt if their daughters wear it.

              Do they have any excuse if their daughters don't?

                              Christine

                              Yes, if the husband allow it to them. But if girls wear, mothers have to wear.
                              If mothers wear it, girls should wear it too, but it is not so mandatory.
                              That is my opinion.

                                  Christine Or she can get married instead.

                                  What rules will apply for your mum wearing?
                                  Belt only or thigh bands / bra as well?

                                      Jonas This is something that I tried to explain when I first posted here. I'm middle aged (read: old-af) and my chastity is really, really, precious to me too. My belt represents my ongoing commitment to my marriage

                                      Oh sorry yeah good point that's special.

                                          Ines So, whose rules are those. Are they family rules. Who enforces them and how are they enforced? I like the rules but just not sure how to get there.

                                          • Ines replied to this.

                                              Jen

                                              Jen My belt represents my ongoing commitment to my marriage

                                              Oh sorry yeah good point that's special.

                                              Oh no need to say sorry, it's not immediately obvious that there may be any romantic aspect to male chastity or to chastity in general at a later stage in life.

                                              The site often points out the negatives and supports those who need it, but there's a lot that's positive to chastity belt usage that goes unsaid. I think any commitment we make to improve ourselves or be better for our significant others is amazing. Putting a lock on such a change simply means you're serious. 😄

                                                    Jonas I think any commitment we make to improve ourselves or be better for our significant others is amazing.

                                                    Well said. And Jen 's commitment to her chastity and her marriage are exemplary. Too bad the belt is sometimes misused.

                                                          Avery Too bad the belt is sometimes misused.

                                                          I guess people often aren't very good with such crazy amounts of power and often end up trying to deal with their own issues via control of another person.

                                                          As to Jen, yeah, fantastic. She wrested back control at the outset, but incredibly then didn't reject the whole idea out of hand. Again; the maturity here on the forum really does often seem to be with the young adults rather than the parents!

                                                            Jonas Yeah, but I think it's not just about setting a good example or understanding how a belt feels etc. It's hypocritical and unhealthy for people to apply rules to others that they don't then apply to themselves.

                                                            that is true, but does not contradict me

                                                            curious

                                                            the only way in my opinion would be if the parents get permission from the court beforehand. I don't speak for all countries here, but from a legal point of view only a court can order measures involving deprivation of liberty

                                                            bdsamm Please note the recent case of Britney Spears.

                                                            OMG please not this example. I understand the background, but from my point of view both (both Britney and her father) belong under guardianship as both have severe mental disorders from my point of view

                                                            Christine Not yet, just measurements.

                                                            okay, that sounds different. please keep us up to date 🙂

                                                                      Angelina both (both Britney and her father) belong under guardianship as both have severe mental disorders from my point of view

                                                                      They probably do, but if we appointed conservators for every mentally disordered celebrity, we would run out of both conservators and free celebrities. The barrier to interfering in a person's autonomy should be very, very high.

                                                                          youdontknowme My point (as vague as it was) is that if you have enough money, lawyers, experts, and time, a father could possibly get a court order to put a chastity belt on his daughter. That is not right but it is one of the flaws in the system. (there are lots of others.0 tThis is not something I am recommending and in fact would be seriously opposed to but it is part of the system we have (that needs improvement.

                                                                          I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.

                                                                              bdsamm I don't want to get lynched. Just making a legal point.

                                                                              You won't get lynched in the US. What you said is undeniably true here.

                                                                                it seemed that some on here thought I was holding the Spears case up as a good example.

                                                                                bdsamm
                                                                                Yes.
                                                                                In the end it is the mother who manages the girls' belt.
                                                                                So there is no excuse for a woman who believes in and participates in seat belting for her daughters not to wear one.
                                                                                In the end, when the rules are set, it is only fair if everyone has the same ones, so the mother and daughters must wear it.
                                                                                Another thing is the girls, we do not set any rules, so we are not obliged.
                                                                                And if the mother does not want to, it must be the father who makes justice prevail, as @Rafael did or the father of @kat_anders or @Abby82 .

                                                                                    Christine Abstinence, but not yet.

                                                                                    When is this supposed to start?
                                                                                    And what rules are there about duration and being able to cancel?