Joh Because she did not say it by herself. We read only your statement and this can be everything which fits in your view.

And even her own statements rarely say anything about her daughter's feelings, and when they do, it is only amlong the lines of "she accepted the trade".

youdontknowme Since money is the root of all evil,

yes, of course i disagree, the equation then no longer works šŸ˜‚

HHelen Why do you think she doesn't like it?

unfortunately your daughter doesn't write here, but i don't think anyone would like to have their sexuality taken away in order to be able to study

HHelen Then why do you have to pay for it?

because education is an investment in the future

    youdontknowme and your relationship with your wife does involve a lot of love, does it not?

    Of course, but money allowed us to have a wonderful wedding 😃

    HHelen

    Again… all about money. May I highlight that I never ever read you writing something nice about your daughter? Where nice means ā€œconsidered a human beingā€.

    I really hope that in real life you are the opposite, otherwise as soon as she doesn’t need your money anymore your ā€œinvestmentā€ will probably dump you.

    HHelen She is your daughter. She is a girl, a female, a person. She is a human!
    No she is not your investicion, she is not an object!

    HHelen Agreed. And you have to protect your investements.

    You avoided my question and so I ask my question again.

    Good education is the basis for being able to live independently and sensibly later on. Because the conclusion from your statement is that only if she follows your opinion and instructions will her education be financed.
    If you are convinced that education is a privilege and she has to follow your ideas to get it, what kind of person should your daughter develop into in order to get it?

      HHelen Agreed. And you have to protect your investements.

      but your daughter is not an investment, she is a human being with feelings. if we have children, it is our job as parents to make sure that our children get the best education possible

        Joh You avoided my question and so I ask my question again.

        Sometime it's hard to understand you.

        Joh If you are convinced that education is a privilege and she has to follow your ideas to get it, what kind of person should your daughter develop into in order to get it?

        So, you are asking how I see her after the graduation or what?

        Angelina but your daughter is not an investment, she is a human being with feelings.

        Daughter is a human, her education is an asset.

        • Joh replied to this.

          HHelen So, you are asking how I see her after the graduation or what?

          I would like to know what kind of person she should develop into so that she can get her training paid for.
          Obviously not into a self-reliant person.

            Joh I would like to know what kind of person she should develop into so that she can get her training paid for.

            At least no worse than me.

              HHelen At least no worse than me.

              Could you elaborate it please.

                HHelen Be on the same social level or better.

                How will she develop to the same or better level if she only follows order from you?

                  Joh if she only follows order from you?

                  She is not.

                  • Joh replied to this.

                    HHelen Be on the same social level or better.

                    you might want to elaborate on what you mean by "social level". That phrase can mean a lot of things to different people.

                      pestulens you might want to elaborate on what you mean by "social level"

                      Level of income and spending.

                      • Ines replied to this.

                        HHelen She is not.

                        From your comment it sounds like that she only follows your order otherwise you will not pay any more.

                        HHelen

                        That is economic level, not social.
                        Education and manners are main legs of social level.
                        Someone can have a lot of money, but socially be a zero.