Laura
And New Caledonian! ๐Ÿ˜‚ And maybe an Esquimo of Saint Pierre et Miquelon!

    Ines AFAIK, there are bunch of players from Martinique in the France's soccer team. And Martinique is France.

      I know Laura, no angry, I was joking a bit with Esquimo! I know Martinica is France, as New Caledonia, there was a France player from there, was married with a model, as French Guyana too.
      They have a lot of territories.
      I like very much geography.
      There is classic film, To have or not to have, situated in Martinica. Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart!
      Anyway, an Esquimo of Saint Pierre would be great!

        Ines Laura

        Congratulations girls. You are at the top in French geography.
        I am really impressed.

        Ines
        Adriana Karembeu

        She even keeps the name of her husband after his divorce.

        I did not remember his name! He played in 90, right?

          Ines
          Yes he was world champion in 1998 with Zinรฉdine Zidane.

          Bufff.... 98! I was not even planned!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

            Ines

            It does not matter since you had a catch-up session last year with the 2nd title of the France team.
            And the bottom line is that you lived the coronation of Spain in 2010.
            More the euro competition in 2008 and 2012.

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              Esteban
              Yes. I was a child, we go out to celebrate, even in my home football just like really to my dad and then my brother.
              But, for a celebration always there is good motives! ๐Ÿ˜‚.
              Spanish blood... I can not avoid it!

                Ines

                Hello Ines, as agreed I submit to you my version of the ideal couple through the movie "Titanic" de James Cameron.

                As my description is very long I will make into 4 or 5 parts by integrating each time a particular scene of teh movie to illustrate my words.

                Regarding the cinematographic link of ralation (man-woman) I would rather recognize myself in the character of Jack DAWSON in Titanic (although I must admit that I'm not as cute as him).

                He lives in all simplicity and immediately understands the psychological problem of Rose (17 years old) who suffocates in his family environment.

                Despite her behavior as a "spoiled rotten little girl" emerging from her, Jack managed to understand her perfectly beyond her mask.

                And even if a mountain stands in front of him to reach his goal (in this case to conquest Rose's love) he follows his instinct to the end because he knows that Rose is in danger in his familial environment.

                I would think Jack is like an asteroid percuting a comet (Rose) to make it "change course" to prevent it from crashing into the earth. He knew how to read the trajectory of it before everyone else.

                Once Rose is conquered she totally relies on Jack following her precious advice with her eyes closed.

                She has a real faith in him (here we find the relationship RAMIUS-BORODINE)

                Besides, I think that the love scene in the car is superbly filmed.

                It's very modest but we understand everything, as if we had attended all of their antics.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwjtPSpULK4

                From this scene we know that these two will become one.
                I do not think you will adhere to my point of view because they make love before they are married.

                But who could seriously doubt that these two would not end up getting married if their story had not ended so tragically?

                Regarding chastity until marriage I must admit that I have a deep respect for those who make the effort to preserve themselves until marriage even if I do not share this value which can be counterproductive.

                But that I will explain to you another time. Even though I know I have no chance to convince you (lol).

                I'll stop for tonight. To be continued

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                  Nice add! Anyway, until the moment I can not see anything opposite between two approachs.
                  I will await until next part! ๐Ÿ™‚

                  Esteban From this scene we know that these two will become one.
                  I do not think you will adhere to my point of view because they make love before they are married.

                  Anyway is a nice and romantic scene. I am not a Taliban!

                  Esteban From this scene we know that these two will become one.

                  And the concept of a couple in love becoming in one inside the girl body, is the backbone of romantic sex, the only in which I believe. For that I think that girl's s body, in my opinion, have to be treated such ritualistic. It is not only our body, is the home of the love. For that is such different of male body.

                    24 days later

                    Ines
                    Hi Ines, as agreed I resume the course of my analysis in relation to my cult film.

                    Compared to Titanic there is a scene that reminds me of a chastity belt. This is the scene of the "corset". I found it in one block but the video has been removed so it is split into two videos.

                    To visualize the scene in question it is necessary to read the video from 1'38 ''

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCaw8_qn1tw&list=PLfZV0xJJZFHLzW66BJ12Wll52SMNN87Uh&index=41

                    and

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL-Scje6o4c&list=PLfZV0xJJZFHLzW66BJ12Wll52SMNN87Uh&index=42

                    I do not know if you have the same feeling as me but for my part I would tend to assume that if Rose's mother had had a chastity belt at her disposal she would have locked her on her daughter to prevent her from flirt with Jack.

                    What you need to know is that in the initial project of the film, the scene was supposed to be reversed: that is to say that it is Rose who should have tied the corset of her mother but that would not have not had the same psychological impact.

                    Looking at this scene, I really feel that Rose's mother is tightening the corset's ties like the parents tighten the belt between their daughter's legs so that they do not go where they feel they should not go.

                    In this scene we feel all the oppression of the mother on her daughter who wants to keep control over her whatever the price to pay

                    I find that this scene perfectly illustrates the psychological situation in which most of the girls girdled on this forum are. At the bottom of their hearts are all "Rose Dewitt Bukater" since each of them aspires to more freedom and to be able to blossom sexually as a Woman with a big W.

                    But they can not flourish because they are under moral pressure from their parents.

                    If in the film Rose is not oppressed "sexually" she is nevertheless oppressed "morally" in having to resolve to marry a man she does not, only, love to meet the financial needs of his family.

                    What is interesting is that most of the girls on this forum say that despite this moral constraint they consider that their parents act for their good.

                    And in the film we see that this is also the case for the character of Ruth (the mother of Rose) as evidenced by the following scene:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLjgadJqZP4

                    With this scene we do not pretend that Ruth does not like her daughter since we can see that she is morally annihilated by Rose's flip-flop. This is a crucial moment in the film where Rose decides to cut the bridges with her mother (She breaks her mental belt).

                    She finally realize that, even if her mother loved her sincerely, the persistence of this oppressive relationship would eventually rot the rest of her life (just as the wearing of the belt imposed on girls will leave traces in my subconscious and will unfortunately prevent them from living a relationship that is fully fulfilled emotionally).

                    I would hope to be in the error on this point but unfortunately the studies carried out on the subject concluded that the repression of the sexuality of an individual engendered deep disturbances of the personality and the self-esteem. One day the malaise is likely to rise to the surface and this will produce the same effect as a burnout.

                    Unfortunately, I noticed that the girls were rather in denial about this psychological problem. For me it is obvious that they underestimate the risk of traumatic resurgence in the years to come.

                    One day, however, they will ask themselves: Why was this constraint imposed on me? What did I do to be treated differently from other girls? Why should female orgasm be so repressed? Am I really a bad girl when I'm touching here?

                    The last two questions are interesting because:

                    Either the answer they will validate in the coming years will be:

                    YES. The female orgasm must be repressed because a girl who is enjoying herself is a debauchee who really shames her family by behaving like that. And in this case they will bless their parents to have s.exually repressed them to avoid making bad girls.

                    On the contrary, the answer they will validate will be:

                    NO. The female orgasm did not have to be repressed so harshly because a girl who pleases herself does not do any harm to anyone. They will then conclude that the constraint imposed by their parents did not make any sense and that they endured moral suffering for nothing.

                    As I have personally been called to see the damage that a simple injustice between sisters could generate as a behavioral disorder in my mother, I do not even dare to imagine the long-term psychological consequences that such an oppression would risk. to engender on the psyche of girls.

                    It is for this reason that I spend some of my time trying relieve them.

                    Because if they managed to get around the oppression of their belt by getting an orgasm, it would have the effect of releasing them psychically. They would have won a victory over parental oppression and would probably live much more peacefully wearing their belts.

                    Moreover they would feel valued for having been able to circumvent such an object of oppression.

                    And if I had to make the link between my motivation to be on the forum and the film of James Cameron I think that the following scene would summarize well my state of mind through the character of Jack. (Rose symbolically representing all the girls of the forum)

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLKo81_IvBQ

                    Jack (me) explaining to Rose (to the belted girls of the forum) the sneaky danger that threatens them.

                    Rose, in the denial of her situation, makes Jack believe that everything will be fine and that he does not have to worry about her.

                    Rose : Well, I'm fine ... I'll be fine ... really.

                    Jack seriously doubts he explains that for the moment she still strong but that one day it will eventually crack.

                    Jack : Really? I do not think so. They've got you trapped, Rose. And you're gonna die if you do not break free. Maybe not right away because you're strong but ... Rose ... that fire's gonna burn out ...

                    Rose is upset because she knows deep inside her that Jack was right but she prefers to stay in her oppressive and uncomfortable situation rather than risk losing everything and starting from scratch.

                    Rose : It's not up to you to save me, Jack.

                    Jack must then bow, Rose's fate no longer belongs to him, he must resolve to let her decide on her life even if this choice tears her heart

                    Jack : You're right ... only you can do that. "

                    Initially I had not planned to make the connection between the film and the oppressive situation that the girls live this forum. And by reviewing this scene by chance it came out as obvious to me as if the words pronounced by Jack echoed my statement of helplessness compared to the girls of this forum.

                    I came to the conclusion that even the best intentions in the world could come up against the harsh reality of the world around us.

                    I hope that my psychological demonstration will have pleased you.

                    Do not hesitate to tell me if my clumsy comparison or even totally misplaced.

                    To be continuedโ€ฆ

                      3 months later

                      Esteban
                      Yes especially several girls need to find their voice.
                      Also I hate ice cold water and if I had been on a boat (with no life rafts) that took 3 hours to sink you can be 100% certain I would have left the boat with more than a broken door. That dumb spoiled girl, she was probably on some antique drug and imagined Jack (Like "Fight Club")
                      https://youtu.be/A4FvI1r3rIg

                      You are coming on rather harsh comparing things like corsets and foot binding but yes that is one reason why this forum is important. It can help people with repressed phobias, dysfunctional relationships, and worse of all the Female Genital Mutilation. There are men too in bad lifestyles.
                      Thank you for posting but try to network instead of force preaching...

                      2 months later