Ines

ok i accept your opinion, but i'm against it, i think the same curfew should apply to both of them

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    Vanessa And so,her parents should keep the keys,right?

    I think it's obvious.

    Ines I think that girls have to be a little more protected, without anulate us, of course.

    I agree. Girls need to be protected more.

      Angelina
      I obviously do not think in big differences, but I think is advisable stablish some differences.

        Ines

        maybe in the clothes 😉, but otherwise I don't see a big difference (but that's only my opinion)

          Angelina

          It is unfair,but pretty common...In my case,at least,most of the punishments for breaking a rule we both have are similar.

          Ines

          Your example works perfectly for me,my twin has a later curfew than me.I've the same only if we go to the same place.

          Laura I agree. Girls need to be protected more.

          I may agree,but it often means being more limited,which is not very pleasant...

          Angelina maybe in the clothes 😉

          Obviously!Even if it would be fun if my twin has to wear a skirt long enough(and not a kilt)!:p

          I think,most of the time,if rules and punishments are based on gender,the rules for the daughters are stricter,and the punishments for the sons harder(as they're more strong about feeling pain than us,except the pain we feel when giving birth,of course).Do you think too,or am I wrong?I tend to think it,as,as far as I know,when they used corporal punishments in UK,they used different sort of canes,depending on the gender of the one getting punished...

            Vanessa Your example works perfectly for me,my twin has a later curfew than me.I've the same only if we go to the same place.

            In this concrete thing, I think it is normal. I think parents must worry a little more for us than for our brothers.

              Vanessa

              that's exactly what i think, the rules are worse for the daughter and the punishments are worse for the son, i think both are absolutely wrong 🙁

                Ines

                But we can feel it a bit unfair...

                Angelina

                Sure,but it is somehow logical too.A lot of parents tend to think that their daughters need to be protected more,and have more strict rules to achieve it more easily.And,even if it is mainly based on gender and pain tolerance of each gender,I think too it is easier to obey rules if these are more lenient,so less excuses for men when breaking one...

                But,yes,as I said to @Ines,we can feel it unfair(and men can feel unfair to have harder punishments,too).

                • Ines replied to this.

                  Vanessa
                  Well, sometimes we have advantages compared with them, too.
                  You know that I am very "classical" in some matters. I like be treated different of a boy, and I am usually very proud of all the things that make us different.
                  As I usually consider, we are not equal to a boy, but 100% equivalent. We are not worse or better, we are different.

                    Ines

                    I agree,we're different and I could understand(but not necessarily agree)we've different rules.

                    However,we generally have way stricter rules,so not much advantages,compared to the disadvantages...

                    I like your idea of being different but 100% equivalent,however.

                    • Ines replied to this.

                      Vanessa Yes,her father gives her a good proof of trust to let her avoiding to wear it,she should take care he doesn't think she should not have been trusted and so,making him decide to make her wear a chastity bra.

                      I am very happy about this situation, it is much easier for me 😉 and with the new rule from Daniel even more safe 🙁

                      Actually I fear a bra more for my sister then for me. I think she is still looking for a way to stimulate herself but we agreed that we will not talk about ways we found or use because the other one would have to tell it our fathers or would be in a situation where she has to be dishonest to him. I try to convince her to stand the urges

                        Vanessa
                        I think that is very common the behavior that you say, people that think : a girl is not equal to a man, then she has less value.
                        That thinking revolves me. We are not equal, true, but I do not like when some stupid thinks that we are less wise, intelligent or stable.
                        I guess for that I am a little complicated, I like to be treated as a damsel, but I like feel respected as damsel.
                        I would like to can write better in English in order to explain my thinking better.

                          @Vanessa

                          if i had this ability, i probably couldn't hold back no matter how bad the consequences are. but i don't have this ability and wear a chastity bra, so no chance 🙁

                          @Sara2001

                          do you think your sister has that ability, too?

                            @Vanessa

                            and that's my problem, why should i set up different rules for my kids ?

                            Same sleeping time, same curfew and same punishments, that is my attitude 🙂

                            @Ines

                            yes we are different, but we are also people like boys, so i think i can have the same rules 😉

                            our lawful ones make no difference between men and women (in Germany at least)

                              Angelina lawful

                              Of course! Laws must be exactly same. We are equal in every sense of the law.
                              But in other fields it does not work so. And I think is nice to be different.
                              I love being Yang for my Ying. And both, together make a perfect circle.

                                Ines

                                i never claimed that boys and girls are completely the same 😉 that's a good thing 😉

                                but rules and punishments are points where I make no difference 😉

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                                  Angelina
                                  Well, Angelina, here, I can agree in some points.
                                  For example, in studies, thankfully here in home all siblings are good students, even my younger sister is improving results, in studies the exigence and responsibility were same for all.
                                  In domestic chores, always were equal all siblings.
                                  But in another things, at least in my home yes there were differences.
                                  For example, a not very well planned camping excursion of 3 or 4 days to the beach is something that my brother when he was in home could pose our parents, and of course, girls can not.
                                  And go out with the friends to a grade party that finish at 02.00 AM and ask to my father come to pick us with car, it is something that obviously only girls can ask.
                                  About a lot of things my parents ask for our opinion and not of my brother...

                                  Only difference is that girls have to move in a more secure environment. And I like feel that security.

                                  PS I have to go stopping that in 25' minutes I go to cinema! 🙂🙂🙂

                                    Ines

                                    yes i understand your arguments and how you live, i will use certain things differently if i should have children, but these are just different opinions 😉

                                    have fun in the cinema 😃 i'm going to stop now for today too camryn should come 😃

                                    Ines

                                    I agree too.No problem we're different,we should not be considered to have less value than a man.However there is still many people thinking it...

                                    Angelina and that's my problem, why should i set up different rules for my kids ?

                                    Same sleeping time, same curfew and same punishments, that is my attitude 🙂

                                    It is more fair,sure!

                                    Ines In domestic chores, always were equal all siblings.

                                    It more or less the case for us.My twin will tend to have more to work in the garden or in the garage,when I'll do more tasks in the house than him.But it is similar about the part of the tasks we have to do.

                                    Ines For example, a not very well planned camping excursion of 3 or 4 days to the beach is something that my brother when he was in home could pose our parents, and of course, girls can not.

                                    Same for me,my twin would be more free for similar things than me,sure.

                                    Ines And go out with the friends to a grade party that finish at 02.00 AM and ask to my father come to pick us with car, it is something that obviously only girls can ask.

                                    My twin can ask it too.But he's more free to choose to come home in friends' car than me,it is only allowed if there is only very good friends my parents know too in the car.

                                    Ines Only difference is that girls have to move in a more secure environment. And I like feel that security.

                                    Same for me too,but i can understand it.

                                    It seems,when there is rules based on gender,these can be very different depending on the family;but,generally,women must be more careful and more secure,but men are more free.

                                    I've mixed feelings about it...For some things,I can understand it and feel it is logical,but for others,it is unfair,without good reasons...

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