Our families

Ines

Vanessa Your example works perfectly for me,my twin has a later curfew than me.I've the same only if we go to the same place.

In this concrete thing, I think it is normal. I think parents must worry a little more for us than for our brothers.

Vanessa

Ines

But we can feel it a bit unfair...

Angelina

Sure,but it is somehow logical too.A lot of parents tend to think that their daughters need to be protected more,and have more strict rules to achieve it more easily.And,even if it is mainly based on gender and pain tolerance of each gender,I think too it is easier to obey rules if these are more lenient,so less excuses for men when breaking one...

But,yes,as I said to @Ines,we can feel it unfair(and men can feel unfair to have harder punishments,too).

Angelina

Vanessa

that's exactly what i think, the rules are worse for the daughter and the punishments are worse for the son, i think both are absolutely wrong 🙁

Ines

Vanessa
Well, sometimes we have advantages compared with them, too.
You know that I am very "classical" in some matters. I like be treated different of a boy, and I am usually very proud of all the things that make us different.
As I usually consider, we are not equal to a boy, but 100% equivalent. We are not worse or better, we are different.

Vanessa

Ines

I agree,we're different and I could understand(but not necessarily agree)we've different rules.

However,we generally have way stricter rules,so not much advantages,compared to the disadvantages...

I like your idea of being different but 100% equivalent,however.

Ines

Vanessa
I think that is very common the behavior that you say, people that think : a girl is not equal to a man, then she has less value.
That thinking revolves me. We are not equal, true, but I do not like when some stupid thinks that we are less wise, intelligent or stable.
I guess for that I am a little complicated, I like to be treated as a damsel, but I like feel respected as damsel.
I would like to can write better in English in order to explain my thinking better.

Sara2001

Vanessa Yes,her father gives her a good proof of trust to let her avoiding to wear it,she should take care he doesn't think she should not have been trusted and so,making him decide to make her wear a chastity bra.

I am very happy about this situation, it is much easier for me 😉 and with the new rule from Daniel even more safe 🙁

Actually I fear a bra more for my sister then for me. I think she is still looking for a way to stimulate herself but we agreed that we will not talk about ways we found or use because the other one would have to tell it our fathers or would be in a situation where she has to be dishonest to him. I try to convince her to stand the urges

Vanessa

Sara2001 I am very happy about this situation, it is much easier for me 😉 and with the new rule from Daniel even more safe 🙁

And better for you two.😉

Sara2001 Actually I fear a bra more for my sister then for me. I think she is still looking for a way to stimulate herself but we agreed that we will not talk about ways we found or use because the other one would have to tell it our fathers or would be in a situation where she has to be dishonest to him. I try to convince her to stand the urges

It is logical,she recently lost her last possibility to orgasm...

Yes,as you,and your sister,don't lie to your parents,you should not discuss about your tries too much.Even if I doubt one of you can find a way to defeat the belt.I guess it won't be easy for her,for now at least,to manage her urges...Do you think there is a risk your parents order a chastity bra for her?

Angelina if i had this ability, i probably couldn't hold back no matter how bad the consequences are. but i don't have this ability and wear a chastity bra, so no chance 🙁

Same for me.Being so close to orgasm,I'm not sure I would have the willpower to stop before reaching it.

Sara2001 I don't know.

It should be useful to convince her to not do it if she can,but not good if it gives her ideas to disobey...

Vanessa

Ines

I agree too.No problem we're different,we should not be considered to have less value than a man.However there is still many people thinking it...

Angelina and that's my problem, why should i set up different rules for my kids ?

Same sleeping time, same curfew and same punishments, that is my attitude 🙂

It is more fair,sure!

Ines In domestic chores, always were equal all siblings.

It more or less the case for us.My twin will tend to have more to work in the garden or in the garage,when I'll do more tasks in the house than him.But it is similar about the part of the tasks we have to do.

Ines For example, a not very well planned camping excursion of 3 or 4 days to the beach is something that my brother when he was in home could pose our parents, and of course, girls can not.

Same for me,my twin would be more free for similar things than me,sure.

Ines And go out with the friends to a grade party that finish at 02.00 AM and ask to my father come to pick us with car, it is something that obviously only girls can ask.

My twin can ask it too.But he's more free to choose to come home in friends' car than me,it is only allowed if there is only very good friends my parents know too in the car.

Ines Only difference is that girls have to move in a more secure environment. And I like feel that security.

Same for me too,but i can understand it.

It seems,when there is rules based on gender,these can be very different depending on the family;but,generally,women must be more careful and more secure,but men are more free.

I've mixed feelings about it...For some things,I can understand it and feel it is logical,but for others,it is unfair,without good reasons...

Angelina

@Vanessa

if i had this ability, i probably couldn't hold back no matter how bad the consequences are. but i don't have this ability and wear a chastity bra, so no chance 🙁

@Sara2001

do you think your sister has that ability, too?

Sara2001

Angelina do you think your sister has that ability, too?

I don't know.

Angelina

@Vanessa

and that's my problem, why should i set up different rules for my kids ?

Same sleeping time, same curfew and same punishments, that is my attitude 🙂

@Ines

yes we are different, but we are also people like boys, so i think i can have the same rules 😉

our lawful ones make no difference between men and women (in Germany at least)

Ines

Angelina lawful

Of course! Laws must be exactly same. We are equal in every sense of the law.
But in other fields it does not work so. And I think is nice to be different.
I love being Yang for my Ying. And both, together make a perfect circle.

Angelina

Ines

i never claimed that boys and girls are completely the same 😉 that's a good thing 😉

but rules and punishments are points where I make no difference 😉

Ines

Angelina
Well, Angelina, here, I can agree in some points.
For example, in studies, thankfully here in home all siblings are good students, even my younger sister is improving results, in studies the exigence and responsibility were same for all.
In domestic chores, always were equal all siblings.
But in another things, at least in my home yes there were differences.
For example, a not very well planned camping excursion of 3 or 4 days to the beach is something that my brother when he was in home could pose our parents, and of course, girls can not.
And go out with the friends to a grade party that finish at 02.00 AM and ask to my father come to pick us with car, it is something that obviously only girls can ask.
About a lot of things my parents ask for our opinion and not of my brother...

Only difference is that girls have to move in a more secure environment. And I like feel that security.

PS I have to go stopping that in 25' minutes I go to cinema! 🙂🙂🙂

Angelina

Ines

yes i understand your arguments and how you live, i will use certain things differently if i should have children, but these are just different opinions 😉

have fun in the cinema 😃 i'm going to stop now for today too camryn should come 😃

Ines

Vanessa My twin will tend to have more to work in the garden or in the garage,when I'll do more tasks in the house than him.But it is similar about the part of the tasks we have to do.

In my home too, but most of times I prefer, and even we changed chores, I do not like at all the bees (I now... and you are right, but I do not like them), and my brother hates the ironing (thankfully se now has a girlfriend for ironing uniforms band clothes 😅), so if I had garden chores and he had to do something into home, we had a deal!

Sara2001
Not in my home, but in your lifestyle I think it was expected.

Sara2001

Vanessa Do you think there is a risk your parents order a chastity bra for her?

I think the risk is actually bigger then for me, but as long as she not get caught playing with her breasts she should be save. My father again made it clear to us while I explained him my new rule form Daniel. The reason why I don't have to wear one is Daniels pleasure. My sister has no Daniel, so there is no need to keep them accessible.

Vanessa Same for me.Being so close to orgasm,I'm not sure I would have the willpower to stop before reaching it.

I fear the consequence to much. Not only the chastity bra but I think it would also "hurt" Daniel if I do it on purpose. I think as long as I can manage it, I will stop. I can swear to you it is very difficult.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I think the risk is actually bigger then for me, but as long as she not get caught playing with her breasts she should be save. My father again made it clear to us while I explained him my new rule form Daniel. The reason why I don't have to wear one is Daniels pleasure. My sister has no Daniel, so there is no need to keep them accessible.

Right,no good reason to not use it on her if she plays with her breasts,as she's single,now.

Have you to wait until a determined age before being allowed to date someone?

Sara2001 I fear the consequence to much. Not only the chastity bra but I think it would also "hurt" Daniel if I do it on purpose. I think as long as I can manage it, I will stop. I can swear to you it is very difficult.

I understand it would be hard for you to hurt your boyfriend,even if wearing a chastity bra wouldn't be easier to manage...I've no problem to trust you about how hard it is to stop before reaching orgasm!

Angelina if I had this ability, then I would understand the chastity bra for me, even a little 😉

Same.If I would be able to reach orgasm by playing with my breasts,I would understand better why I should wear a chatsity bra.And it would probably be permanently for me too...

Angelina i understand your situation very well, you want to avoid an orgasm because of daniel, which i find of you very affectionate towards daniel, i think it is easier if you know for whom you renounce your pleasure 😉

i don't know if a chastity bra would be good for you, but i hope for you that your breasts stay free, because a chastity bra is not very pleasant 🙁 Vanessa can confirm that

Yes,I can confirm it is not pleasant at all.And I think you should do your best to avoid it.

I think too it can be a bit easier to accept to not have orgasm if doing it for the love of someone you love.

Sara2001

You all know how difficult I, my sister and my brother are threatend.

My brother doesn't wear a CB, is allowed to go out like any boy/man at his age, is allowed to have a sexual relationship with a possible girlfriend, has much less tasks in the household and can deligate them to one of us if we have time. He is even allowed to give us tasks when it is not to much, like cleaning his room.

Luckily he almost never used his power.

Vanessa

Sara2001

Same rules for us,except we have the same amount of tasks(but not all the same),and he can't tell me to do his,or give me tasks.

Good he(almost?)never does it,however.

In my house,if one of us is punished,a part of the punishment can be to do some of the tasks the other one usually do.

Ines n my home too, but most of times I prefer, and even we changed chores, I do not like at all the bees (I now... and you are right, but I do not like them), and my brother hates the ironing (thankfully se now has a girlfriend for ironing uniforms band clothes 😅), so if I had garden chores and he had to do something into home, we had a deal!

We can do it too,but must ask our parents if they allow us to swap tasks.Generally,they're ok with it.

Ines Not in my home, but in your lifestyle I think it was expected.

Yes,not illogical in her case.

Angelina i understand why your parents treat you and your brother differently, this is the case in many families

but I would definitely treat my children the same later on, at least in terms of penalties and rules, but also in terms of tasks and permission 😉

Not sure in my case.I can adapt some rules depending on the gender.But I think the punishment would be the same for both.

Angelina Is your brother older than you and your sister?
if so, i can understand it (even if i would never support it)
if no, it's an absurd thing for me.

Not that much in her house.It seems her parents think that men should be "higher" than women,no matter the age...

Ines I think that you say that because you are not, fortunately, still a mom. Every family I met, in more or less way, protect more the girls. Even the brothers take care and worry for the is sisters.
It is natural, and I think that, In general we should let be caressed.

I think too we tend to protect more the daughters,and I think too it is natural.

Angelina i must believe my father that. i think he means it theoretically also so, whether he would act also so if he had a son is again another question

I think too he can be sincere when telling it to you,but would have acted differently if he had a son too.

Angelina

@Vanessa

if I had this ability, then I would understand the chastity bra for me, even a little 😉

@Sara2001

i understand your situation very well, you want to avoid an orgasm because of daniel, which i find of you very affectionate towards daniel, i think it is easier if you know for whom you renounce your pleasure 😉

i don't know if a chastity bra would be good for you, but i hope for you that your breasts stay free, because a chastity bra is not very pleasant 🙁 Vanessa can confirm that

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