Jen Angelina is going to wonder what happened when she gets back - so many old threads to reply to.

🤣 you are right, but i have already answered most of the old threads, so i will rather read more and look at your new ideas 😉

at this point i can also write briefly how we did it on my holiday. my father gave me a sealed envelope, in which there were two more envelopes, one for the belt and one for the bra (also sealed). i had to send him a foro every evening that the envelopes were closed, but i had access to the keys in case of emergency.

Laura She did it already 😂

how is that supposed to work? today i am online for the first time in 8 days

        Angelina how is that supposed to work? today i am online for the first time in 8 days

        I meant you did it before after 3 weeks 😂

            Laura I meant you did it before after 3 weeks 😂

            I did and I have to say I used it for as long then as it does today, the froum is growing extremely. i haven't read everything in detail because otherwise i would spend the whole night here 😂

                Sin

                Hard and humiliating one!

                Joh

                I agree.

                But sometimes,it is hard to manage to not cut the lock!😉

                Sin

                So,even if you have no other solution to get the key,you still have to do that?

                Angelina at this point i can also write briefly how we did it on my holiday. my father gave me a sealed envelope, in which there were two more envelopes, one for the belt and one for the bra (also sealed). i had to send him a foro every evening that the envelopes were closed, but i had access to the keys in case of emergency.

                Good way to deal with it.

                What if it was opened?Have to go back home immediately?Otherwise,he could have checked it when back at home.

                Angelina i haven't read everything in detail because otherwise i would spend the whole night here 😂

                I may have to skip a few threads too.

                            Vanessa So,even if you have no other solution to get the key,you still have to do that?

                            That was the plan! It was to make sure I played safe and kept my wits me, and didn't put myself in a vulnerable situation. I've had short hair for most of this year so it's not such a huge deal anymore. But I still don't want to be bald right now. Maybe one day though! It gives me butterflies just thinking about it.

                              Vanessa What if it was opened?

                              i also had an empty envelope with a seal. i should have put the key in there after the emergency, sealed it and sent a photo to my father. 😉

                              Vanessa I may have to skip a few threads too.

                              I'll do that too, in some it's just too much, especially because I have to translate everything first.

                                    Angelina i also had an empty envelope with a seal. i should have put the key in there after the emergency, sealed it and sent a photo to my father. 😉

                                    I guess you would have to explain very well why you needed to open it,in such circumstances,right?

                                        Vanessa I guess you would have to explain very well why you needed to open it,in such circumstances,right?

                                        right and if the reason is not sufficient i will be punished severely (just as severely as if i would break open the belt). however, we clearly talked about what acceptable reasons are before the holiday

                                            Angelina

                                            Hard,but logical it would be the same punishment than breaking/lockpicking it.

                                            Good you take care to discuss the possible reasons.

                                                Vanessa Good you take care to discuss the possible reasons.

                                                of course and had there been an emergency i could have called my father before opening the envelope to be sure 🙂

                                                  22 days later

                                                  I think a good solution is to have a spare key in a closed envelope that can't be opened without noticing in a box that is locked with a kind of seal that can be destroyed easily but not on accident.
                                                  I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

                                                    Sara2001 I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

                                                    That's surprising.
                                                    Does this mean that if you open the box without an emergency, he will give you the key? You have one year to find out how you want to go on and if you have a future together.
                                                    Or will he give the key to your father?
                                                    The first case make sense and give you the freedom to see if you find a way for you both how you will continue or not.

                                                      Sara2001 if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year.

                                                      Interesting. I'm surprised to hear this is the case for you.

                                                      It's also the consequence I'd face for using one of my emergency keys inappropriately.

                                                        Sara2001

                                                        as i had already written more often i would prefer ways where wearer and keyholder have to talk to each other beforehand like a safe or something secured by a number code.

                                                        i am very surprised about the consequence and somehow not quite sure if this is more of a punishment or a reward. 😂

                                                            Sara2001 I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

                                                            I think it's good that you're working together in marriage. If so I take back all the harsh criticisms I sent.

                                                                Megan Of cause we talk about everything together and make plans together, he has just the final saying when it comes to rules and things like that.

                                                                We have these kind of red lines. If I use the key without his permission and without a good reason and without talking to him first, it's a clear signs, that I don't want to continue our lifestyle, so I think it's a perfect consequence.

                                                                I think I have said it countless times 🙂 Talking is the key.

                                                                    Sara2001 I think a good solution is to have a spare key in a closed envelope that can't be opened without noticing in a box that is locked with a kind of seal that can be destroyed easily but not on accident.

                                                                    Seems a good idea,yes.

                                                                    Sara2001 he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year

                                                                    Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

                                                                    Angelina i am very surprised about the consequence and somehow not quite sure if this is more of a punishment or a reward. 😂

                                                                    Me too!😉

                                                                            Vanessa Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

                                                                            He would give me the key, then it's on me what to do with it.

                                                                                Sara2001 We have these kind of red lines. If I use the key without his permission and without a good reason and without talking to him first, it's a clear signs, that I don't want to continue our lifestyle, so I think it's a perfect consequence.

                                                                                would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

                                                                                    Angelina would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

                                                                                    It would mean that we have to deeply think about our lifestyle and if it is still the right thing to do for us. I think depending on how it happens, he may want to pause our lifestyle, too. That's why it is such a powerful punishment. If I ever want to change my situation, I will definitely avoid this way.