Keys location

Angelina

Vanessa I guess you would have to explain very well why you needed to open it,in such circumstances,right?

right and if the reason is not sufficient i will be punished severely (just as severely as if i would break open the belt). however, we clearly talked about what acceptable reasons are before the holiday

Vanessa

Angelina

Hard,but logical it would be the same punishment than breaking/lockpicking it.

Good you take care to discuss the possible reasons.

Angelina

Vanessa Good you take care to discuss the possible reasons.

of course and had there been an emergency i could have called my father before opening the envelope to be sure 🙂

Sara2001

I think a good solution is to have a spare key in a closed envelope that can't be opened without noticing in a box that is locked with a kind of seal that can be destroyed easily but not on accident.
I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

Joh

Sara2001 I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

That's surprising.
Does this mean that if you open the box without an emergency, he will give you the key? You have one year to find out how you want to go on and if you have a future together.
Or will he give the key to your father?
The first case make sense and give you the freedom to see if you find a way for you both how you will continue or not.

gwen

Sara2001 if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year.

Interesting. I'm surprised to hear this is the case for you.

It's also the consequence I'd face for using one of my emergency keys inappropriately.

Angelina

Sara2001

as i had already written more often i would prefer ways where wearer and keyholder have to talk to each other beforehand like a safe or something secured by a number code.

i am very surprised about the consequence and somehow not quite sure if this is more of a punishment or a reward. 😂

Megan

Sara2001 I have talked with Daniel how we want to handle it after wedding and our plan is to do it like this and if I open the box in any other situation then a severe emergency, he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year. So it's a double proof that everything is like it should be.

I think it's good that you're working together in marriage. If so I take back all the harsh criticisms I sent.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I think a good solution is to have a spare key in a closed envelope that can't be opened without noticing in a box that is locked with a kind of seal that can be destroyed easily but not on accident.

Seems a good idea,yes.

Sara2001 he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year

Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

Angelina i am very surprised about the consequence and somehow not quite sure if this is more of a punishment or a reward. 😂

Me too!😉

Sara2001

Megan Of cause we talk about everything together and make plans together, he has just the final saying when it comes to rules and things like that.

We have these kind of red lines. If I use the key without his permission and without a good reason and without talking to him first, it's a clear signs, that I don't want to continue our lifestyle, so I think it's a perfect consequence.

I think I have said it countless times 🙂 Talking is the key.

Angelina

Sara2001 We have these kind of red lines. If I use the key without his permission and without a good reason and without talking to him first, it's a clear signs, that I don't want to continue our lifestyle, so I think it's a perfect consequence.

would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

Sara2001

Vanessa Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

He would give me the key, then it's on me what to do with it.

Vanessa

Sara2001

Interesting possibility!😉

Sara2001

I can understand it,yes,if it do not only impact your chastity belt.

Sara2001 we would have to definitely re-establish the trust between us

If you stop your lifestyle,but stay a couple this way,you would not trust you anymore?Even for a single bad choice?

Joh

Right.

Angelina if you really can't stand living this lifestyle anymore it is better to talk to Daniel openly than to break it secretly and endanger the relationship.

I agree.

Sara2001

Angelina would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

It would mean that we have to deeply think about our lifestyle and if it is still the right thing to do for us. I think depending on how it happens, he may want to pause our lifestyle, too. That's why it is such a powerful punishment. If I ever want to change my situation, I will definitely avoid this way.

Angelina

Sara2001

so it's more of an all or nothing decision and your equipment and the rest of your lifestyle are connected? really sounds like a punishment now

Sara2001

Angelina so it's more of an all or nothing decision and your equipment and the rest of your lifestyle are connected? really sounds like a punishment now

The relationship itself would stay, but we would have to definitely re-establish the trust between us and many other things. I will do anything to prevent it. If I feel that I need more orgasms, I will find ways that work with his support. Even if I have to wait longer for it to happen. I think I will never have an orgasm on purpose without his permission.

Joh

Angelina For me it sounds like they working on the relation and find out a way how it will fit for both. The same as you doing. The different is in the kind of relation.

Angelina

Sara2001

this also makes sense, if you really can't stand living this lifestyle anymore it is better to talk to Daniel openly than to break it secretly and endanger the relationship. trust is the most important thing no matter what kind of lifestyle you have.

Joh For me it sounds like they working on the relation and find out a way how it will fit for both. The same as you doing. The different is in the kind of relation.

i don't doubt that. the all or nothing was related to the lifestyle and not to the relationship in general.

Joh

Angelina
OK. Than I got it wrong. Sorry.

Angelina

Joh OK. Than I got it wrong. Sorry.

No Problem 🙂

Sara2001 No, if I have an orgasm on purpose without his permission. If we have a long talk about our lifestyle and then we change it, of course everything is fine.

i'll be honest, if you are at that point you should talk about your lifestyle first and not afterwards. it would be better for your mutual trust.

Sara2001

Vanessa If you stop your lifestyle,but stay a couple this way,you would not trust you anymore?Even for a single bad choice?

No, if I have an orgasm on purpose without his permission. If we have a long talk about our lifestyle and then we change it, of course everything is fine.

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