Ines I can understand that not all girls have same feelings, but I like the idea of reserve a entire part of my life, the most primitive and essential part of my feminity to my man

Ok,I can understand it.

Ines And well, I do not make criticism about different thinking ways

Same for me,sorry if you felt I criticized you,it was not my purpose.

Angelina that's exactly the point, i mastubated a lot even though i knew my father didn't want it. if i didn't have a secondary sign i would try it again, but since i always wear a secondary sign i have no chance.

At least,you avoid being punished for it...

Laura In my opinion, it would not hurt anybody if an unwed belted girl is allowed to masturbate, but not excessively. Because she doesn't have other options to relief.

I agree with you,even on the "not excessively" part.I liked to masturbate,I liked it a lot,but I was not a chronic masturbator either.Doing it too much can affect badly your social life, your study/work,your sexuality,etc....

Angelina the same with me. it is removable but it has more reasons in case of emergencies, otherwise it is always there

And before you ask, my father never said what an emergency would be.

I don't know what can be an emergency needing to take the secondary shield off,but keeping the belt on...

Renita If only because you have a relationship with a girl

No,I had to have it on permanently even when dating a man,or when single.

But I agree,with Emilie,if I haven't the secondary shield on,there would be much more pleasant possibilities!

                Vanessa I don't know what can be an emergency needing to take the secondary shield off,but keeping the belt on...

                Maybe for cleaning?

                    Laura Maybe for cleaning?

                    It is better to take the belt off and clean more easily,and more completely.

                        Renita A girl may not have that key even for emergency.

                        Is she can't access it without it being noticed,it isn't a problem.

                            Vanessa Is she can't access it without it being noticed,it isn't a problem.

                            I think @Renita means when a girl can unlock secondary shield only.

                                Vanessa
                                Well Vanessa, even me that I can Be the wearer with most flexible regime, there are a lot of times in which I am not released of my belt for every shower I take.
                                But without secondary shield cleaning is much better.

                                    Laura I think @Renita means when a girl can unlock secondary shield only.

                                    Oh,ok.As I said I have difficulties to imagine what emergencies could be done by taking the shield off but not the belt(even more as the belt is less "secure" with it off...But it depends the purpose of the belt).

                                    Ines there are a lot of times in which I am not released of my belt for every shower I take.

                                    Same for me,most of the showers,I still have my belt on.But when it is supervised,it is totally off,I've never had a shower with belt on,without the secondary shield.I guess it is better to wash with it off,sure.

                                        if you always wear the secondary shield and never can open, why did your father bought a CB having secondary shield instead of a welded plate? A useless lock more, more weight, useless. and also more expensive maybe.

                                          strictfather You have mixed 4 different approaches.

                                          1. No secondary shield at all. See Renita
                                          2. Permanent secondary shield without lock. My case.
                                          3. Secondary shield on the main lock. Can be attached and detached by parents when necessary.
                                          4. Secondary shield on a separate lock. Can be attached and detached by girl if she has that key, but belt remains locked.

                                                I think best approach is the 4, more better for the girl and the holders.

                                                  ines, what's scope to unlock secondary shield? maybe is better 2. cheaper and less space and weight.

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                                                    strictfather
                                                    To have a shower belted, but with a much better cleanness. Even cleanness of the secondary shield which is usually tight against our lips, and always is a little messy.
                                                    And I am little obsessive with the cleanness.

                                                      ? i thought you always had a shower without belt....

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                                                        Ines I think best approach is the 4, more better for the girl and the holders.

                                                        I agree with you, but some are contraindicated here

                                                          strictfather
                                                          No, not ever. Thankfully I am released a lot of times, and in scholar year I have shower unbelted after my training almost everyday.
                                                          But specially in weekends that I am belted until Monday or in summer, I do not ask for release every shower I take.
                                                          But even belted particular good cleaning of shield is mandatory.

                                                              Ines even me that I can Be the wearer with most flexible regime, there are a lot of times in which I am not released of my belt for every shower I take

                                                                Ines I do not ask for release every shower I take.

                                                                Same for me. If I asked to take the belt off for every shower, it would be suspicious and most likely I would be refused.