Purpose of preventing masturbation?

Kaja not what Ines meant. Took me two reads too.

I think you don't realise you wrote an insult. You called people who believe masturbating is bad "people with mediaeval brains"

Kaja No, it isn't. UWC is the best evidence that you can also live without sex

Kaja Um. I like it

Max9 I always thought that only works for boys @Kaja

why should it only work for boys ?

Kaja Sex is for people basic need like sleeping, eating, ...

i don't agree, there are many people who can live without sex. without eating and sleeping it is difficult.

Max9 No, it isn't. UWC is the best evidence that you can also live without sex

Kaja Im not a slut

Wait a second... What's wrong with being a slut? This belief seems inconsistent with the rest of your position.

gwen What's wrong with being a slut?

Reputation?

Laura Reputation?

Is the societal double standard around female sexuality still that strong where you live? In larger coastal cities, being a sexual being seems to have fewer negative consequences.

gwen Is the societal double standard around female sexuality still that strong where you live?

Yes, in my circles

Angelina why should it only work for boys ?

because women have no prostate

Sara2001

Right...

Angelina I don't know if it's healthy

Many studies tell it's healthy.

Kaja have you ever try to outwit your belts with stimulation of "second hole"

Tried a bit,but I don't like it much...And can't orgasm this way.

Angelina i am very careful with the saying "all experts say so", because the question always has to be asked, who are all of them? are they really experts?. i would say the majority agrees with you, but not all of them

There is way more studies telling it's healthy than the opposite,however.

Laura

I agree.One of the reasons,at least.

Max9 because women have no prostate

ok, apparently I didn't pay enough attention in biology because I don't really know what that has to do with it.

Vanessa There is way more studies telling it's healthy than the opposite,however.

as I said, I don't dispute that, I just don't like the term "all say".

Max9 It is said to be very satisfying to have a prostate massage (also by anal sex)

Have you ever tried it (I mean the massage)?

Angelina have been thinking about doing it a lot lately, but haven't done it jet.

Max9 have been thinking about doing it a lot lately, but haven't done it jet.

give us a little update when you do

Angelina I just don't like the term "all say".

I doubt there is many subjects in which all the studies say the same,anyway.Even if "most say" would be more accurate,sure,the meaning would not be very different,for the readers.

Vanessa Even if "most say" would be more accurate,sure,the meaning would not be very different,for the readers.

perhaps i personally prefer not to use the term "all say" but of course that is just my personal opinion

Angelina personally prefer not to use the term "all say" but of course that is just my personal opinion

The medical literature is clear on this. Self care is a natural process with a range of benefits and it should not be considered harmful or shameful. Of course it can be done to excess and that can have issues, but if a healthcare professional is telling you masturbation is bad, then they probably graduated decades ago, and they need to update their education.

Source: am a healthcare provider

I am certainly not against abstinence, I am on a chastity forum after all. If YOU (not your father, YOU) choose to abstain that's great! More power to you. But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint. That's not how knowledge or science works.

By all means, prevent masturbation if that works for you. But can we please stop framing it as something bad or shameful that must be avoided at all costs. It's not and it isn't.

Sin But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint.

that's more what you do, because ....

Sin The medical literature is clear on this.

Sin It's not and it isn't.

if i were to find a scientific study that disproves this, your argument would be wrong. i agree with your OPINION, but it is and remains an OPINION (even if it is shared by many).

Sin But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint.

Also as "health care provider" now retired, I find myself in agreement with most of what you say; (and I did actually graduated over four decades ago ).

I would only disagree with the quote above. Picking and choosing what you believe because it fits your viewpoint is basically how humans are wired. Evolution has seen to that. Most of humanity does it. It may not be science (though to be honest a large proportion of the "science" carried out by scientists isn't very scientific either - witness that most journals succumb to massive amounts of confirmation bias), or the way knowledge is ascertained. If picking and choosing makes people comfortable, does no harm to others then why not.

From personal observations (which doesn't seem to contradict the literature) I know that masturbation is is pleasurable and does not cause long term harm. Even continuous masturbation while pleasurable is self limiting and loses its appeal after a while. Enforced abstinence for a period tends to increase the pleasure when the period ends whether release is via masturbation or from sex play with a partner. This is why chastity belts can be a useful sex toy that ironically increase sexual pleasure.

There are of course many ways to abstain. Chastity devices, especially when controlled by a loving partner are just one such method. What one decides to pick and choose as to why they submit to these devices, is thus irrelevant. Science be damned!

Sin You are totaly true!