Sara2001

Right...🙁

Angelina I don't know if it's healthy

Many studies tell it's healthy.

Kaja have you ever try to outwit your belts with stimulation of "second hole"

Tried a bit,but I don't like it much...And can't orgasm this way.

Angelina i am very careful with the saying "all experts say so", because the question always has to be asked, who are all of them? are they really experts?. i would say the majority agrees with you, but not all of them 😉

There is way more studies telling it's healthy than the opposite,however.

Laura

I agree.One of the reasons,at least.

    Max9 because women have no prostate

    ok, apparently I didn't pay enough attention in biology because I don't really know what that has to do with it. 😂

    Vanessa There is way more studies telling it's healthy than the opposite,however.

    as I said, I don't dispute that, I just don't like the term "all say".

      Angelina ok, apparently I didn't pay enough attention in biology because I don't really know what that has to do with it. 😂

      It is said to be very satisfying to have a prostate massage (also by anal sex)

        Max9 It is said to be very satisfying to have a prostate massage (also by anal sex)

        Have you ever tried it (I mean the massage)?

          Angelina have been thinking about doing it a lot lately, but haven't done it jet.

            Max9 have been thinking about doing it a lot lately, but haven't done it jet.

            give us a little update when you do 😉

            Angelina I just don't like the term "all say".

            I doubt there is many subjects in which all the studies say the same,anyway.Even if "most say" would be more accurate,sure,the meaning would not be very different,for the readers.

              Vanessa Even if "most say" would be more accurate,sure,the meaning would not be very different,for the readers.

              perhaps i personally prefer not to use the term "all say" but of course that is just my personal opinion

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                Angelina personally prefer not to use the term "all say" but of course that is just my personal opinion

                The medical literature is clear on this. Self care is a natural process with a range of benefits and it should not be considered harmful or shameful. Of course it can be done to excess and that can have issues, but if a healthcare professional is telling you masturbation is bad, then they probably graduated decades ago, and they need to update their education.

                Source: am a healthcare provider

                I am certainly not against abstinence, I am on a chastity forum after all. If YOU (not your father, YOU) choose to abstain that's great! More power to you. But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint. That's not how knowledge or science works.

                By all means, prevent masturbation if that works for you. But can we please stop framing it as something bad or shameful that must be avoided at all costs. It's not and it isn't.

                  Sin But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint.

                  that's more what you do, because ....

                  Sin The medical literature is clear on this.

                  Sin It's not and it isn't.

                  if i were to find a scientific study that disproves this, your argument would be wrong. i agree with your OPINION, but it is and remains an OPINION (even if it is shared by many).

                    Sin But you can't pick and choose what you believe just because it fits in with your viewpoint.

                    Also as "health care provider" now retired, I find myself in agreement with most of what you say; (and I did actually graduated over four decades ago 🤣 ).

                    I would only disagree with the quote above. Picking and choosing what you believe because it fits your viewpoint is basically how humans are wired. Evolution has seen to that. Most of humanity does it. It may not be science (though to be honest a large proportion of the "science" carried out by scientists isn't very scientific either - witness that most journals succumb to massive amounts of confirmation bias), or the way knowledge is ascertained. If picking and choosing makes people comfortable, does no harm to others then why not.

                    From personal observations (which doesn't seem to contradict the literature) I know that masturbation is is pleasurable and does not cause long term harm. Even continuous masturbation while pleasurable is self limiting and loses its appeal after a while. Enforced abstinence for a period tends to increase the pleasure when the period ends whether release is via masturbation or from sex play with a partner. This is why chastity belts can be a useful sex toy that ironically increase sexual pleasure.

                    There are of course many ways to abstain. Chastity devices, especially when controlled by a loving partner are just one such method. What one decides to pick and choose as to why they submit to these devices, is thus irrelevant. Science be damned! 🤣

                      Foxies I agree with you 100%. People can believe what they want, it just frustrates me when they choose to endorse harmful behaviour despite evidence to the contrary.

                      In my case, I have a compressed pudendal nerve in my pelvis, which causes all sorts of messed up symptoms that require physical intervention (PGAD anyone?). I have no doubt that if I was prevented from relieving myself as a teenager I would have plunged a kitchen knife into my vagina long ago. So when I see posts like the following I have to call it out, because there will be people viewing this forum and taking advice from it, and causing untold damage to their children because of their own religious / cultural hangups despite the best efforts of the medical fraternity.

                      shinydiamond77 Simply not being directly harmful does not mean it's fine or even necessary to allow. Unlike boys, girls almost never have a valid reason to touch there, especially when a bidet is available. In almost every situation, when a girl touches there, it would be better if she didn't or couldn't. That's why a girl doing anything involving her private area should require permission first.

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                        Sin it just frustrates me when they choose to endorse harmful behaviour

                        It doesn't go away on this site. I see in the history years of it and others who tried to call it out but give up.

                        Is the nerve issue better now? That must have been hell hard to deal with. surprising you go for a belt now aren't you just forcing a similar thing on yourself?

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                          Jen Is the nerve issue better now? That must have been hell hard to deal with. surprising you go for a belt now aren't you just forcing a similar thing on yourself?

                          I try to do yoga and physio stuff daily, which seems to keep it at bay. I use the belt for a variety of reasons... fun mostly. Currently using it to keep me motivated. It's the start of winter where I am so it's kind of hard to get out of bed in the morning and do exercise. The belt means I don't have any excuse to stay in bed!

                          Also the attachment gets a workout every now and then. It's a crude but effective way of massaging things (and it makes my morning commute much more interesting!).

                            Sin Also the attachment gets a workout every now and then. It's a crude but effective way of massaging things (and it makes my morning commute much more interesting!).

                            Sorry, I didn't get it. it would be nice if you could explain it.

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                              Joh Sorry, I didn't get it. it would be nice if you could explain it.

                              Umm. Not sure if it abides by the rules of the site... but my belt has an attachment that I sometimes use for personal reasons. I use it to massage my pelvis. (Short walks can help).

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                                Sin
                                OK. I think I understood what it is. Thank you. 😀

                                  Sin makes my morning commute much more interesting!

                                  Lol at least you can claim medical reasons 🤔

                                  Sin It's the start of winter...

                                  Best time for sports. Hope you're not a Richmond supporter.

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                                    Jen Best time for sports. Hope you're not a Richmond supporter.

                                    lol no, not really a footy fan!! (But maybe Dockers) :-p