Vanessa if we are in majority,it would not impact my parents' decision

in my home, the one who has the best arguments wins the discussion, so he doesn't want me to get support from camryn so he can avoid additional arguments 🙁

Vanessa Similar for my twin and me.But we often have to do some before spending too much time with our boyfriend/girlfriend,or our friends.And it was even more strict about homework.

own time management is part of the sense of responsibility

    Sara2001

    Wouldn't you like to be more responsible about other things,like how to manage wisely your money and such?

    Angelina in my home, the one who has the best arguments wins the discussion, so he doesn't want me to get support from camryn so he can avoid additional arguments 🙁

    Good way to act.My parents tend to listen to my arguments,but they generally think much about a rule,and know how to counter a good argument.

    Angelina own time management is part of the sense of responsibility

    Yes,and I'm sure I could manage it well,even if not doing it like I must,but my parents think it is important to learn that work should come before fun...

      Vanessa Wouldn't you like to be more responsible about other things,like how to manage wisely your money and such?

      I don't know. If I am not in charge, it can't be my fault :🙂 . It is also a good feeling that someone else is taking care of you.

        Vanessa ,but my parents think it is important to learn that work should come before fun...

        my father only thinks that the work has to be finished, he doesn't care when and where but the work has to be finished in time

        you can see by this that he works self-employed 😉

        Sara2001 I don't know. If I am not in charge, it can't be my fault :🙂

        hahaha this is also an interesting way of thinking 😂

          Sara2001

          Right,a good part about it!😉

          Angelina my father only thinks that the work has to be finished, he doesn't care when and where but the work has to be finished in time

          you can see by this that he works self-employed 😉

          Yes,I guess it can impact a bit how he thinks about it.I would like my parents think that way,too...

            Vanessa

            he says that time management is an important step to becoming a responsible woman 😉

              Angelina

              Even if my parents doesn't think the same(they agree that learning about time management is important,but it is a less important part than "work/study come first",in their opinion),I think it is a good opinion.

                Vanessa

                it's just the rules of your parents, so it's hard to change anything, but maybe you can change something else because at 24 you should be able to organize your own time management

                  Angelina

                  Maybe I would try to argue about it after I get some more jobs,to show them my employers trust me and they should do so,too...

                    Vanessa

                    it would be bad if your employers trust you more than your parents, after all your parents have known you all your life

                      Angelina

                      But they know more my misbehaviors,too! 😉

                      However,I would probably try to use it to make them notice I'm responsible enough,now,and they can give me a bit more freedom.

                        Vanessa But they know more my misbehaviors,too! 😉

                        that's true 😂

                        Vanessa However,I would probably try to use it to make them notice I'm responsible enough,now,and they can give me a bit more freedom

                        I think you're old enough and mature enough.)

                          Angelina

                          Sure,but they care more about how I act(and acted),so I've to prove that I'm responsible enough to get this freedom.And having(and keeping)a job is a good proof about it.Being in a serious relationship too.

                            Vanessa

                            that's right, and in your professional life you will learn how to behave in a mature and adult way, you can use this knowledge at home to prove to your parents that you can manage your own time 😉

                              Angelina

                              Yes.For now,I don't care much about it,the new rules with Emilie will be important to get used to,but I'll have a talk about it a bit after it.

                              And,generally,I have more chances to get some changes about my rules,if I don't ask for too much changes at the same time.It is longer,but increase the chances that my parents would accept it.

                                Vanessa And,generally,I have more chances to get some changes about my rules,if I don't ask for too much changes at the same time.It is longer,but increase the chances that my parents would accept it.

                                this is the same with me, I always say that we have to think in small steps and be patient, then we have more success 😉

                                  My father and Daniel agreed that from now on I will mainly get my rules, punishments and maintenance from Daniel.

                                  As I said, they already discuss my rules together, so they think it's a good thing when both of us know as early as possible how this aspect of our future life together will be.

                                  Only the keys to my chastity belt and tightbands will stay under my fathers control until marriage.