Home and family rules

Sara2001 I am used to it. Sometimes I wish to be able to say no to something but this never was the case. I have to obey or I get punished.

I guess if it was always the case for you,it was esaier to accept...

Sara2001 For me it feels right.

I think you're right,too.

Angelina I think I need to express myself more clearly

with me, as with Sara, it's just the other way around. when it comes to rules that only concern me, camryn must not be in the room, so that she can't support me and thus create a majority

Understandable;not a problem for me,as,even if we are in majority,it would not impact my parents' decision.Otherwise,it would be complex,as my twin and me would side for changing a rule we have in common,and would ask when only one of our parents is available.

Angelina What about responsibility?
that's an interface in both areas, what's his opinion?

I tend to agree with you.WIthout enough freedom,there can't be true responsibility.

Angelina in my opinion (and that of my father) responsibility is not possible without a certain independence

I agree too.

Sara2001 I think this counts as a bit of independence

So it could be only a bit of responsibility!

Angelina it is the same with me

Similar for my twin and me.But we often have to do some before spending too much time with our boyfriend/girlfriend,or our friends.And it was even more strict about homework.

Vanessa if we are in majority,it would not impact my parents' decision

in my home, the one who has the best arguments wins the discussion, so he doesn't want me to get support from camryn so he can avoid additional arguments

Vanessa Similar for my twin and me.But we often have to do some before spending too much time with our boyfriend/girlfriend,or our friends.And it was even more strict about homework.

own time management is part of the sense of responsibility

Sara2001

Wouldn't you like to be more responsible about other things,like how to manage wisely your money and such?

Angelina in my home, the one who has the best arguments wins the discussion, so he doesn't want me to get support from camryn so he can avoid additional arguments

Good way to act.My parents tend to listen to my arguments,but they generally think much about a rule,and know how to counter a good argument.

Angelina own time management is part of the sense of responsibility

Yes,and I'm sure I could manage it well,even if not doing it like I must,but my parents think it is important to learn that work should come before fun...

Vanessa ,but my parents think it is important to learn that work should come before fun...

my father only thinks that the work has to be finished, he doesn't care when and where but the work has to be finished in time

you can see by this that he works self-employed

Sara2001 I don't know. If I am not in charge, it can't be my fault :

hahaha this is also an interesting way of thinking

Sara2001

Right,a good part about it!

Angelina my father only thinks that the work has to be finished, he doesn't care when and where but the work has to be finished in time

you can see by this that he works self-employed

Yes,I guess it can impact a bit how he thinks about it.I would like my parents think that way,too...

Vanessa

he says that time management is an important step to becoming a responsible woman

Angelina

Even if my parents doesn't think the same(they agree that learning about time management is important,but it is a less important part than "work/study come first",in their opinion),I think it is a good opinion.

Vanessa

it's just the rules of your parents, so it's hard to change anything, but maybe you can change something else because at 24 you should be able to organize your own time management

Vanessa

it would be bad if your employers trust you more than your parents, after all your parents have known you all your life

Angelina

But they know more my misbehaviors,too!

However,I would probably try to use it to make them notice I'm responsible enough,now,and they can give me a bit more freedom.

Vanessa But they know more my misbehaviors,too!

that's true

Vanessa However,I would probably try to use it to make them notice I'm responsible enough,now,and they can give me a bit more freedom

I think you're old enough and mature enough.)

Angelina

Sure,but they care more about how I act(and acted),so I've to prove that I'm responsible enough to get this freedom.And having(and keeping)a job is a good proof about it.Being in a serious relationship too.

Vanessa

that's right, and in your professional life you will learn how to behave in a mature and adult way, you can use this knowledge at home to prove to your parents that you can manage your own time

Angelina

Yes.For now,I don't care much about it,the new rules with Emilie will be important to get used to,but I'll have a talk about it a bit after it.

And,generally,I have more chances to get some changes about my rules,if I don't ask for too much changes at the same time.It is longer,but increase the chances that my parents would accept it.

Vanessa And,generally,I have more chances to get some changes about my rules,if I don't ask for too much changes at the same time.It is longer,but increase the chances that my parents would accept it.

this is the same with me, I always say that we have to think in small steps and be patient, then we have more success