Sara2001 What effort does your father have?
the chastity belt is an extreme challenge for the relationship. it could easily happen that we distance ourselves very far from each other. he always has to make sure that i am psychologically stable enough and can handle the situation well
Ines Obviously a normal regime requires a lot of effort and empathy of key holder.
Lock and forget is not possible.
that's exactly what i mean, therefore permanent wearing is a challenge for both sides
Ines Obviously a normal regime requires a lot of effort and empathy of key holder.
Lock and forget is not possible.
This is why it was so important that my wife take my belting seriously.
Angelina the chastity belt is an extreme challenge for the relationship. it could easily happen that we distance ourselves very far from each other. he always has to make sure that i am psychologically stable enough and can handle the situation well
Of course, I didn't question that. But we have talked about effort. I thought you meant things like time he has to invest for physical maintenance. That was my argument. I didn't want to say that he can lock and forget a wearer from a psychological point of view. It was just about cleaning and maintenance and things like that.
Angelina that's exactly what i mean, therefore permanent wearing is a challenge for both sides
Psychologicaly yes, but not from a physical point of view and that was my understanding of the question.
ah, ok then we misunderstood each other sorry. yes, from a physiological point of view you are right, it takes the least effort if the wearer is locked permanently.
but i think that the psychological side is much more important, because i think the effort for a abstinence belt is not so much higher than for a chastity belt. but the psychological relationship is much more difficult
Angelina but i think that the psychological side is much more important, because i think the effort for a abstinence belt is not so much higher than for a chastity belt. but the psychological relationship is much more difficult
I am not sure about this. I have never worn an abstinent belt, but I have seen how my sister had changed over time since she is no longer able to masturbate once a week before sport class. I think knowing that masturbation is impossible and not having an orgasm helps the wearer to miss it less after some time. I think if I would be allowed to masturbate from time to time I would miss my orgasms much more on any other day.
Sara2001 I think knowing that masturbation is impossible and not having an orgasm helps the wearer to miss it less after some time.
i understand why you think so, but i have a completely different opinion. of course it always depends on the character of the girl, but i am 100% sure that i could handle an abstinence belt better. the main reason is that i could accept an abstinence belt better and my anger against the belt would be much less
Angelina the chastity belt is an extreme challenge for the relationship. it could easily happen that we distance ourselves very far from each other. he always has to make sure that i am psychologically stable enough and can handle the situation well
And it means too that our keyholder should spend time related to it.Supervising showers,accepting to talk about it when we need to,or when we have questions...And accept we can be angry or resentful,especially at first...
Sara2001 . I thought you meant things like time he has to invest for physical maintenance.
It was what I think too.My parents need to take some time to supervise my showers if I want to take one without the belt on,which can happen pretty often during periods or when it is hot.
Sara2001 I think knowing that masturbation is impossible and not having an orgasm helps the wearer to miss it less after some time.
Not so sure.It would be very helpful for me to have some breaks to relieve my urges,even if I would probably want to have such breaks more often.
Me too.An abstinence belt,or,at least,having some breaks,alone with my chastity belt off,would help me.
Vanessa And it means too that our keyholder should spend time related to it.Supervising showers,accepting to talk about it when we need to,or when we have questions...And accept we can be angry or resentful,especially at first...
exactly, so i would not say it is the easiest solution, not even for the keyholders (parents)
Vanessa My parents need to take some time to supervise my showers if I want to take one without the belt on,which can happen pretty often during periods or when it is hot.
right, it is the same with me. in winter i shower once a week without equipment, but if it is summer or if i have my period, i insist on being allowed to shower more often
Angelina exactly, so i would not say it is the easiest solution, not even for the keyholders (parents)
Of course that's true, that's exactly my argument. The lower the number of showers without the belt. The less time consuming is supervision. Of course it is only "easy" in terms of time consuming, that's what I tried to say.
Angelina right, it is the same with me. in winter i shower once a week without equipment, but if it is summer or if i have my period, i insist on being allowed to shower more often
That's a good definition, because it is comfortable for you, but I think more then one cleaning break per week is not mandatory but only very, very nice, even if you have your period as I know from myself. I don't say that it is not time consuming for me and I don't recommend this at all!!!
Sara2001 Of course that's true, that's exactly my argument.
yes, i understand what you mean and agree with you. i just try to look at different sides 
Sara2001 That's a good definition, because it is comfortable for you, but I think more then one cleaning break per week is not mandatory but only very, very nice,
well i am very sensitive when it comes to hygiene. i clean the equipment every day (under supervision of course), maybe it's not necessary, but it makes me feel better, because once i am locked up in my equipment, i can't do much against germs
Angelina right, it is the same with me. in winter i shower once a week without equipment, but if it is summer or if i have my period, i insist on being allowed to shower more often
Logical.Does he accept often?
Sara2001 Of course that's true, that's exactly my argument. The lower the number of showers without the belt. The less time consuming is supervision. Of course it is only "easy" in terms of time consuming, that's what I tried to say.
However,it is important to have enough cleaning breaks,for hygiene and health.A keyholder should take care of it,and accept as much supervised showers as needed.
Sara2001 more then one cleaning break per week is not mandatory but only very, very nice, even if you have your period
During period,it is very important to have more cleaning breaks,I think.
Angelina i clean the equipment every day (under supervision of course), maybe it's not necessary
Even if not necessary,it is better to do it often.
Vanessa However,it is important to have enough cleaning breaks,for hygiene and health.A keyholder should take care of it,and accept as much supervised showers as needed.
I completely agree, but I have only one supervised shower without the belt for years now with absolutely no exceptions. So I have to say that one supervised shower per week is all that is needed and anything more is for the wearer convince.
Vanessa During period,it is very important to have more cleaning breaks,I think.
My experience is that it is possible to clean yourself well enough with the belt on. I would not suggest it as a default, but I do it like this for years. It is time consuming but it is possible and I have no hygienic problems.
Angelina mostly yes, at least when I explain to him why it is urgently necessary
Good,even if not pleasant if you have to explain it everytime.
Angelina or even more, better too much than too low
Sure.
Sara2001 completely agree, but I have only one supervised shower without the belt for years now with absolutely no exceptions. So I have to say that one supervised shower per week is all that is needed and anything more is for the wearer convince.
So,it wouldn't change when married?
Sara2001 My experience is that it is possible to clean yourself well enough with the belt on. I would not suggest it as a default, but I do it like this for years. It is time consuming but it is possible and I have no hygienic problems.
Sure,but I think it should be considered as a valid exception,and so,allow more supervised showers.
I shower with my chastity belt on more often during summer or when I've my period too,but I like to add some more supervised showers without my chastity belt on too.
Vanessa So,it wouldn't change when married?
I don't think so.
Vanessa I shower with my chastity belt on more often during summer or when I've my period too,but I like to add some more supervised showers without my chastity belt on too.
I would like it, too. But not having this opportunity doesn't make me unhappy. It is not very likely.
obviously women should be allowed to climax whenever they please. It's their bodies, they are sentient human beings.
