Sara2001

a very complicated way, but i might come back to it. the problem is that when you answer you have to make sure that we understand whether the answer comes from you or from Daniel

Sara2001

Even if we disagree with some of his opinion,we can discuss with him politely.

Laura

Right.

Sara2001

Not the easiest way to discuss,but why not.

    Sara2001

    i am sorry, but i still find it too complicated to communicate through a third person 😂 thank you for the offer, but therefore I decline 🙂

      Angelina i am sorry, but i still find it too complicated to communicate through a third person 😂 thank you for the offer, but therefore I decline

      Okay. He still doesn't like the idea to write here. He reads here from time to time, but he don't want to interfere this.

        No. I don't think he is registered here and he would most probably use another Nick.

        Sara2001 He reads here from time to time, but he don't want to interfere this.

        just like camryn 🙂 no problem

        Laura I have seen someone with nick @Danielle yesterday. It was he?

        by the spelling of the name, i would rather say that it is a woman 🤣

          Angelina i would rather say that it is a woman

          Me too, but I thought it's different in German

            Sara2001 I have two queries for Daniel:

            Knowing that your fiancée has endured chastity for so long, why continue to subject her to it?

            And even if you think chastity in itself is a wise idea, why add the thigh bands and bra, which feel more like instruments of punishment than barriers of morality?

              Saintprudence Knowing that your fiancée has endured chastity for so long, why continue to subject her to it?

              This is his answer (I translated it to English)
              We decided to have a total power exchange relationship. We talked a lot about it and we still do. I believe, that this has to include full control about her private parts. It means that it is under my control when and how she can feel sexual pleasure. For that reason she also had to continue with wearing chastity bra and tightbands. It is not only the purpose to prevent orgasms but any kind of stimulation.

              After it is clear that she can trust me without any conditions in any situation, the basic idea behind the role of the submissive in tpe relationship is to reduce her freedom as much as possible and to give her enough freedom as necessary. She will get any freedom that is necessary to keep her happy and to reach her goals but nothing more. She already has a strict routine with 2 regular corner times a day, so she knows how live with restricted freedom feels. In exchange I make sure that she doesn't have to worry anything, as long as she follows her rules and that she always know how important she is for me. She can talk to me at any time if she struggles or feel unhappy about her situation, but or because of this she is happier then ever (at least overall).

                Laura Me too, but I thought it's different in German

                i think a woman in germany, i was thinking more of france

                which country does the user come from?

                  Angelina which country does the user come from?

                  Netherlands. But it seems a proxy or vpn.

                  Sara2001

                  ok, after I have seen how it works, I have a question for Daniel

                  If it should happen that Sara should turn against the chastity equipment (i.e. after you have had long conversations), is there a plan B to ensure the goals of both of you are still achieved?

                    Angelina If it should happen that Sara should turn against the chastity equipment (i.e. after you have had long conversations), is there a plan B to ensure the goals of both of you are still achieved?

                    This is his answer:
                    This is a very complex to answer question, maybe it even answers the former question better then my initial answer. At first let me say that I know that she hates wearing her equipment. That the idea of getting rid of it after marriage helped her to survive her teenage years and that the current situation where everything became more difficult for her is nothing she enjoys. Not even for a single second. She hates that she can't reach her private parts, but even more she hates the discomfort that comes with the chastity equipment. I know she would love to do sports, to run, to dance or ride a bicycle again. She absolutely hates, that during hot weather she is not able to go swimming. She would love to get rid of her clothes restrictions because of her equipment. I know all this very well and this is a big part why our relationship feels so strong for me. Keep in mind, actually it is planned, that there will be no exception from this wearing routine, maybe except removing the chain between her tightbands for a hiking trip or some kind of SUPERVISED sport. Both of us know, that this is a gigantic restriction for her. I can absolutely understand that she hates this and why. She doesn't have to wear it for security reasons, but it is very clear that she has to wear it for the purpose of restricting her. It shouldn't be as comfortable as possible but as restrictive as possible. I am pretty sure she would not masturbate or play with herself without permission, even if she hadn't to wear her equipment.

                    Why do I then demand it? To produce a strong reminder of her place. It may sound strange, but I know it gives her a strong feeling that I can for her. That her situation is important for me. That she is the center of my life.

                    With this background information, I hope it is easier to understand that having a Plan B would not be based on her stating she wants to get out of her chastity belt but would mean a general mind change. It would require a major change of our relationship in a completely different direction. She HAPPILY accept to have what she hates, because it is something she can give to our relationship. It's to show me how important I am for her. If someone accept such a hard limitation for you, it is an overwhelming feeling. For her it is a great feeling to be able to do this for me, because she hates it so much.

                    So I honestly don't think that we need a Plan B for this situation. The belt, tightbands and bra are a part of something bigger. If I see that anything makes her really unhappy, that what she get out of it is not more then what she invests and that she would feel "used" and not supported, I would change it as fast as possible, but she doesn't feel like this when it comes to this topic.

                      Sara2001

                      well I understand what is meant, this has been mentioned several times here in the forum. I always say that it is perfectly ok, if wearing the equipment is part of something bigger, but I am not of the opinion that the power situation has to change with taking off the chastity equipment.

                      And exactly for this it needs a plan B . It can always come to the point where both partners love their role in the relationship, but can't deal with smaller aspects of this role distribution. To say that we don't need a plan B still seems to me to be a little too short, because people change

                      I don't want to dissuade you from the idea of how to run your relationship or later marriage, but there must be some flexibility in some aspects of the relationship

                      thanks for the answer 🙂

                        Angelina I don't want to dissuade you from the idea of how to run your relationship or later marriage, but there must be some flexibility in some aspects of the relationship

                        Sara here: I think it is a bit like with the contracts. We don't need a contract for a similar reason. I trust him that he will see when a change is needed and that he takes what I want into account. I don't think a predefined kind of exit strategy would help us.

                        I am sure that if I can't deal with the belt anymore, I don't have to worry that he will remove it. I don't have to worry that I risk our relationship if I change my mind about my equipment.

                          Sara2001

                          ok thanks for the answer, i hope you realize that i don't want to talk you into anything. i try to put myself in this relationship, which is very difficult for me

                          i don't think you would endanger your relationship if you took the equipment off, but i always wonder if it is a necessity. i think your kind of relationship could work without the chastity equipment and maybe you should think about alternatives

                          but again i probably think more complicated than i should. sometimes i just have experimental ways of thinking 😂

                          Sara2001 a fascinating answer. As someone in a relationship that borders on tpe, I can appreciate this.

                          Even though I more or less volunteered, my opinion of the belt ranges from grudging acceptance to sheer hatred. It seems so painfully unfair to me that everyone in the works gets orgasms freely but I do not. Still, the inability to enjoy orgasm was built strongly into me long before I ever wore the belt. And I know that being locked into it represents my wife’s live for me and willingness to do what is best for my own good even if I complain about it. And if she took it off, I would question her love and commitment for me.

                          Sara2001 here is another question for Daniel, in the context of what we have already heard: Knowing how much she hates it, how will you emotionally deal with the days that will come when her resentment spills over? Every belt wearer has bad days no matter how dedicated they are.