Jonas I've found that a belt has to have a certain level of security

Of course,but it does not avoid thinking on a way to cheat on it,I think.

But I can understand you feel and react differently.

Angelina

Alcohol,at least,is a bit different.Even after years without drinking,even a sip of alcohol can make an ex-alcoholic addicted again(it is why even syrup against cough,which often contains very small quantities of alcohol,are often not recommended for people who were addicted to alcohol).I think cigarettes can work the same,but am not totally sure about it.

Jonas

I don't think it is the majority of the cases.

Angelina Inspiration is perfectly ok, but there should be no false expectations.

I agree.

            Vanessa Of course,but it does not avoid thinking on a way to cheat on it,I think.

            But I can understand you feel and react differently.

            I think you're correct, we all consider the security of the belt on an ongoing basis (shaking the lock becomes a quick way of satisfying this desire). However, once the belt is considered secure it starts to do it's job which, for me at least, is to reframe the question from a more wilful "Why should I stop masturbating?!" to "Why should I start masturbating?".

            Eg: Under the influence of nicotine it is harder to stop than to start smoking. When out from said influence, it's easier to stop than to start. The same, I think, goes for lust.

            A chastity belt is just there for the times when lust is going to influence your decision making process too much.
            I also fully understand that you feel differently! 😃

            Vanessa I don't think it is the majority of the cases.

            Agree it's not yet a majority problem, however the NOFAP movement is a reaction to this phenomena and is, as far as I can tell, a growing movement.

                  Vanessa Alcohol,at least,is a bit different.Even after years without drinking,even a sip of alcohol can make an ex-alcoholic addicted again

                  maybe, but i wouldn't generalise, here too i would differentiate from case to case.

                      Jonas I'm afraid I think the availability of internet porn is changing people's behaviour and choices

                      You mean a guy would prefer his left hand than his girlfriend?

                          I don't normally criticize what others do but as I almost slipped and fell on ice today I must say that anything that could cause someone to fall and break their teeth should not even be legal.

                            Megan 😂😂
                            We should ban the ice! Ice just for soft drinks!

                              HHelen You mean a guy would prefer his left hand than his girlfriend?

                              I'm saying men are increasingly choosing the endless, excessive, infinite variety of porn in preference to real world relations.

                              You're right to suggest that this is a reductive process, but it's probably equally focused on the guy's right hand - if that's the one that operates the computer mouse! 🖱️ 😀

                                  Jonas

                                  i think those thoughts are bad, i think it's bad that some men have to take refuge in pronos, that shouldn't be the case for anyone, i think there is a suitable partner for everyone and everyone deserves their own happiness 🙂

                                      Angelina i think it's bad that some men have to take refuge in pronos

                                      Yep, absolutely. Like all addictions porn reduces people to mindless automata, endlessly repeating the same (self and life destructive) behaviours over and over again. I think the trick is to work out how to help such people and to support them as they try to help themselves.

                                      Angelina i think there is a suitable partner for everyone and everyone deserves their own happiness

                                      That's lovely. I agree. 🙂

                                            Jonas . I think the trick is to work out how to help such people and to support them as they try to help themselves.

                                            right, and maybe even a chastity belt will help (even if that would not be my first "form of therapy"). 😉

                                                Angelina When it goes too far, you have to break the feedback loop of self-pleasure somehow. 🤪

                                                    Jonas (shaking the lock becomes a quick way of satisfying this desire

                                                    Even voluntary wearers do it!😉

                                                    Jonas . However, once the belt is considered secure it starts to do it's job which, for me at least, is to reframe the question from a more wilful "Why should I stop masturbating?!" to "Why should I start masturbating?".

                                                    I think it depends on each person.

                                                    Angelina

                                                    It is pretty admitted that an ex-alcoholic can resume this addiction very quickly,even after years without drinking...

                                                    Megan

                                                    Due to thigh bands?

                                                    Angelina

                                                    But no need to solve it,as long as it is not excessive,in my opinion.

                                                                Vanessa Even voluntary wearers do it!

                                                                Just because I think it's right that I wear a chastity belt, doesn't mean that it doesn't drive me absolutely nuts sometimes! 😂

                                                                    Vanessa It is pretty admitted that an ex-alcoholic can resume this addiction very quickly,even after years without drinking...

                                                                    I stand by my statement, also based on experience from my circle of friends (whose parents).

                                                                    Vanessa But no need to solve it,as long as it is not excessive,in my opinion.

                                                                    As I said, it would not be my first "therapy method", rather the last resort.

                                                                          Vanessa It is pretty admitted that an ex-alcoholic can resume this addiction very quickly,even after years without drinking

                                                                          Only one drink is sufficient to be addicted and start again. An ex-alcoholic can never drink alcohol again or it starts again on the spot. I heard some alcohol in cake like Black Forest cake (Schwarzwälder Kischtorte) already trigger it.

                                                                              Angelina As I said, it would not be my first "therapy method", rather the last resort.

                                                                              Yet, when you find yourself at the last resort, you wonder to yourself, "why didn't I do this at the start?!" 😀

                                                                                  Jonas

                                                                                  well, i think there are much more pleasant forms and ways to control this search a little better. the belt is very restrictive and should therefore only be the last solution. 😉

                                                                                      Angelina As always I respect your opinion, even though I have a different view. 😃

                                                                                          Jonas As always I respect your opinion, even though I have a different view. 😃

                                                                                          it was clear to me that you have a different opinion and that is perfectly ok 😃