Sara2001 Now a good belt last more than a year!
With laser cutting and specialization, I would imagine that the number could be 4 to 10 a good day, from the manufactures in Germany. We should not just focus on higher class belts. You have a BIG Chinese market with 1000 of manufactures, who make adjustable belts and cages.

      Tobbe Now a good belt last more than a year!

      Yes, 100.000 means every of these mans have just one belt/cage and use it 5 years. The 500.000 already included several other manufacturers.

      Do you know any manufactur in China who produce really good quality for long term use? How many percent do you think only use it for playing and fetishism, but not 24/7.

          Sara2001 You have Cocoondesign from China. Only male belts now, but maybe also female in the future.

          I have no clue, but I think some start with playing and ends up in 24/7.

            Tobbe We should not just focus on higher class belts. You have a BIG Chinese market with 1000 of manufactures, who make adjustable belts and cages.

            i disagree, i would not use "cheap toys" as a basis for calculation 😉 a bobby car is also not a real car 😂

                Angelina I agree with you, but I don't think the statistic makes no difference. You are a user, even if it is a poor cheap chastity belt.

                    Tobbe but I don't think the statistic makes no difference

                    then in my opinion it's a bad statistic 😂 but yes i understand what you mean, just if i should calculate again, you shouldn't be surprised that i don't include toys

                        Angelina
                        If you include only serious user i would start with an estimation on the member at the forum. Let say 1% of the serious user are at the forum I get 700 to 1000 for Germany. From this number you can't estimate how many will start every year.
                        Not many manufacturer exist but they deliver around the world. If MySteel makes 2 belt per day it will be around 460 to 500 per year. With 230 working days per year. I don't see why it should be more if you consider the delivery time after order. And the 500 are world wide delivery.

                            Joh I get 700 to 1000 for Germany.

                            the number sounds realistic, maybe a bit more because we are an english speaking forum with german search queries many probably don't find our forum and rather end up on fetish forums

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                                Angelina maybe a bit more because we are an english speaking forum with german search queries many probably don't find our forum

                                I don't think so. Most people can read English and if they can't understand a sentence they will use an online translator.

                                    German KGforum - Das Forum für Keuschheitsgürtel,:
                                    Registrierte Mitglieder: 29.875
                                    A forum only in German and should be the majority who also use chastity.

                                      Tobbe That's true, but most lockees there are male, and approximately about 80% of all locked males wear a chastity cage, about 70 to 85% of them are made in PRC.

                                        Tobbe
                                        I found it and it has only 476 registered members.
                                        Anyway. Thank you for the hint.

                                            Joh You only saw the members who was online last 24 hours!!!
                                            online: Momentan surfen auf dem Board: (1164)
                                            In den letzten 24 Stunden waren 556 registrierte Benutzer im Forum.
                                            There is now 29.875 registered members total.

                                              Angelina

                                              I think we can't agree without the number of serious users,which would be very hard to know.Even if the manufacturers tell about the number of chastity belts/cages sold,we could not know how many were for serious use...

                                              Tobbe We should not just focus on higher class belts. You have a BIG Chinese market with 1000 of manufactures, who make adjustable belts and cages.

                                              But can these be used for serious use?

                                              Tobbe

                                              But the question is how many of these registered members are serious users...

                                                      Vanessa I have seen users of cheap belts who have used them for a long time. Taped liners and probably uncomfortable, but used.

                                                      I don't know, but if we think 10% we have nearly 3.000!

                                                          Tobbe
                                                          Thank you for the correction. I didn't see it.
                                                          If you presume 50% are user and the other 50% key holder with 10% serious wearer we get 1500. It is not so fare away from my guess earlier. And this user are cumulated over some years.

                                                            Joh I don't think so. Most people can read English and if they can't understand a sentence they will use an online translator.

                                                            of course but i didn't know the english name for "Keuschheitsgürtel" before i tried it 😉

                                                            Tobbe German KGforum - Das Forum für Keuschheitsgürtel,:
                                                            Registrierte Mitglieder: 29.875
                                                            A forum only in German and should be the majority who also use chastity.

                                                            i was in that forum before i found the "predecessor forum misterpoll". but it seemed more like a fetish forum to me, which is why i never registered there.

                                                            Vanessa I think we can't agree without the number of serious users,

                                                            we need our own studies for this, perhaps a topic for my doctoral thesis in a few years. 😉

                                                                    Tobbe

                                                                    But they used it for the initial purpose,not as a fetish or a play?

                                                                    Angelina of course but i didn't know the english name for "Keuschheitsgürtel" before i tried it 😉

                                                                    And I guess if using only the german name for it,not trying to search it in english,our forum is far from the top of Google's results...Probably similar in every non-english language.

                                                                    Angelina we need our own studies for this, perhaps a topic for my doctoral thesis in a few years. 😉

                                                                    Good idea!😉

                                                                    And a subject you know well,useful for a thesis!😉