curious Ever considered that your set of values (all girls equal, men different set of rules) does not automatically apply to the rest of the world? I

please, @Ines has her values, i have mine and you have yours. we shouldn't play them off against each other. we live in a society where women have more opportunities than ever before, but that doesn't mean that women always have to use them. some women want to be protected or controlled by their men. be respectful and accept different ways of life.

    Angelina

    I do accept that.
    I just observed that Ines always puts forward her ideas of men-dominanted society and women needing control / belting etc. whenever someone writs - like in this case Maija - about a relationship where one woman wants to be keyholder of the other.

      curious

      yes, because @Ines doesn't think that's right. in a lesbian relationship (and i agree with you) it is not possible any other way πŸ˜‚

        Angelina yes, because @Ines doesn't think that's right.

        Exactly my point.
        I do not understand why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion which is not about herself or her relationship. If I know my opinion deviates from what the wider society considers "normal", I fight for my right to live according to my values but I do not try to push these values onto everyone else.
        And thatΒ΄s is why I put forward that question to her, because I wanted to point that out.

          curious I do not understand why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion which is not about herself or her relationship.

          We need a score keeper to determine how many times she does it and how many times you do it.

          curious I just observed that Ines always puts forward her ideas

          Next time, I will put your ideas, I just observed that other ideas bother you. πŸ˜‚
          Do you know that Maija and her girlfriend are of same Church? Do you even know values of that congregation for girls?
          No.

          curious If I know my opinion deviates from what the wider society considers "normal"

          Rest of us think that our ideas are mainstream! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Thankfully we have you to enlighten us!
          πŸ˜‚πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

          curious but I do not try to push these values onto everyone else.

          Aha... you are trying to do it even in the mere discussion, but you say that I am trying to do it... πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

          curious why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion

          Because I do not want push your preferences. 😊and, in the same sense, I do not know because you are always compelled to correct to everyone here. I have warned you about your attempts of cut freedom of opinion of users.

          curious

          i disagree, @Ines has the right to participate in any discussion like everyone else. both you and i also participate in discussions even though the situation has nothing to do with our own

          Ines well, she is. But even though she doesn't like being locked, she likes to take control over me (and I like it too). My father and Anna are actually working out some details about her keyholding my bra and thighband padlock when no family members are around (this would enable me to have the chain, currently I have to wear the padlock since no-one would be there to lock and unlock it)

            Maija I can understand the thighband padlock but am a bit surprised she will also get your bra padlock as well. What are the circumstances when she would get to unlock your bra?

            Maija

            i am impressed, but then the bra would no longer be a part of the goal that you are chaste, but would become a "toy" of your relationship. i think for you it is an improvement, but i don't understand it

            Maija Do you have any idea what conditions are attached to it or have the negotiations already ended?

            9 days later

            Maija But even though she doesn't like being locked, she likes to take control over me

            We know she has to use a chastity belt too, but does she use thigh bands an bra too?
            What is the regime of usage for the girls in her family?

              Ines currently she also wears bands and bra. Other women in her family do the same

                Maija Other women in her family do the same

                Fair.
                Does she use them 24/7 as you?

                  Maija currently she also wears bands and bra. Other women in her family do the same

                  so she also comes from a family where chastity is a kind of family thing? does she have sisters who also wear chastity devices?

                    Ines Does she use them 24/7 as you?

                    Yes

                    Angelina so she also comes from a family where chastity is a kind of family thing? does she have sisters who also wear chastity devices?

                    Yes, her mother and sister wears as well

                      Maija Yes

                      So, if your father allow her the control of some of your keys, you will have much more freedom than her.

                      Maija her mother and sister wears as well

                      Fair.

                        Maija ItΕ› fair when all "girls" wear, same rules

                        @Bryan ,

                        Maija No, we don't think it would be wise. But we have observed that we both like when I submit to her, and she likes the control.