Maija Anna has stated she will expect that, yes

Does it mean If you continue your relation with Anna you are going to wear CB and thigh bands most time?

      Maija yes 😬😀😊

      a brave step, my respect for it, but i wonder why? as far as i know she is not voluntarily chaste herself either, so i don't understand why she suggested it (and also why you agree)?

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          Angelina as far as i know she is not voluntarily chaste herself either, so i don't understand why she suggested it (and also why you agree)?

          As far as I can tell from her postings, she is convinced it is good for her and her relationship.

            Ines No, we don't think it would be wise. But we have observed that we both like when I submit to her, and she likes the control.

                Maija If both of you think it is the right thing to do why should it not wise?
                It is the right decision as long as both agree with it and feel happy.

                  Maija

                  i'm still puzzled. your girlfriend isn't a volunteer in the belt, is she? and with you, it fluctuates a bit, even though you claim to be a volunteer most of the time. so how did you come up with the idea and how exactly do you envision it, i.e. regarding breaks, which devices, etc?

                    Ines but she is a girl too.

                    And.... ? Expand your vision.

                      Ines Yes.. but she is a girl too.

                      Ever considered that your set of values (all girls equal, men different set of rules) does not automatically apply to the rest of the world? In many relationships who is dominant and who submits to that autority is not determined automatically by gender but based on the individual preferences of the 2 people involved - and it might well turn out that the dynamics are exactly reversed from what you know and prefer.
                      And with gay relationships there is obviously no automatism based on gender possible but it is always determined by what both sides like.

                          curious rules) does not automatically apply to the rest of the world?

                          Yes, thanks. I am pretty aware.

                            curious Ever considered that your set of values (all girls equal, men different set of rules) does not automatically apply to the rest of the world? I

                            please, @Ines has her values, i have mine and you have yours. we shouldn't play them off against each other. we live in a society where women have more opportunities than ever before, but that doesn't mean that women always have to use them. some women want to be protected or controlled by their men. be respectful and accept different ways of life.

                                Angelina

                                I do accept that.
                                I just observed that Ines always puts forward her ideas of men-dominanted society and women needing control / belting etc. whenever someone writs - like in this case Maija - about a relationship where one woman wants to be keyholder of the other.

                                    curious

                                    yes, because @Ines doesn't think that's right. in a lesbian relationship (and i agree with you) it is not possible any other way 😂

                                        Angelina yes, because @Ines doesn't think that's right.

                                        Exactly my point.
                                        I do not understand why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion which is not about herself or her relationship. If I know my opinion deviates from what the wider society considers "normal", I fight for my right to live according to my values but I do not try to push these values onto everyone else.
                                        And that´s is why I put forward that question to her, because I wanted to point that out.

                                            curious I do not understand why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion which is not about herself or her relationship.

                                            We need a score keeper to determine how many times she does it and how many times you do it.

                                              curious I just observed that Ines always puts forward her ideas

                                              Next time, I will put your ideas, I just observed that other ideas bother you. 😂
                                              Do you know that Maija and her girlfriend are of same Church? Do you even know values of that congregation for girls?
                                              No.

                                              curious If I know my opinion deviates from what the wider society considers "normal"

                                              Rest of us think that our ideas are mainstream! 😂😂. Thankfully we have you to enlighten us!
                                              😂🤦🏻‍♀️

                                              curious but I do not try to push these values onto everyone else.

                                              Aha... you are trying to do it even in the mere discussion, but you say that I am trying to do it... 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

                                              curious why she always feels compelled to push her preferences into a discussion

                                              Because I do not want push your preferences. 😊and, in the same sense, I do not know because you are always compelled to correct to everyone here. I have warned you about your attempts of cut freedom of opinion of users.

                                                      curious

                                                      i disagree, @Ines has the right to participate in any discussion like everyone else. both you and i also participate in discussions even though the situation has nothing to do with our own

                                                        Ines well, she is. But even though she doesn't like being locked, she likes to take control over me (and I like it too). My father and Anna are actually working out some details about her keyholding my bra and thighband padlock when no family members are around (this would enable me to have the chain, currently I have to wear the padlock since no-one would be there to lock and unlock it)