Avery How hard is it to tie a willing person to the bedposts.

You can make it wrong in one or the other way. If you tighten the rope too much you will cut off the blood circulation or damage nerves. If it is too loose you can wriggle out.

Max9 you got a stick and a hole... not too hard to figure out where the stick belongs ... maybe they were drunk?

When you're nervous, your brain can just stop working and then even that doesn't work. It's even worse when the stick goes soft. Try pushing a long scarf into a tight hole. Good luck with that.

        Joh You can make it wrong in one or the other way. If you tighten the rope too much you will cut off the blood circulation or damage nerves. If it is too loose you can wriggle out.

        Quite true.

          Laura But it seems @ZeynepFox 's story has confused you

          I can't trace back the reference but I think @ZeynepFox does an excellent job of explaining her ideas and the customs she observes.

              Avery I can't trace back the reference

              "Intact hymen matters"

                  Laura "Intact hymen matters"

                  That is rather devoid of context but I do think young people make mistakes, some people are forced into things and from what I've read not all hymens are created equal at birth. Accordingly, judging people by their hymens may be a slippery slope. But as I said she "does an excellent job of explaining her ideas and the customs she observes"..

                    Joh It's even worse when the stick goes soft.

                    ok, yeah, that makes sense.

                    Joh Try pushing a long scarf into a tight hole.

                    is it really such tight? I imagine it to be like
                    ... idk ... at least 6 to 8 cm wide

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                          Max9 is it really such tight? I imagine it to be like
                          ... idk ... at least 6 to 8 cm wide

                          What on earth lol

                              Jen 🤷‍♂️ i mean... it still has to fit in, so it can't be too small

                                  Jen 🤣

                                  Max9 Dare you to buy an 8cm wide toy and see if you can make it fit you-know-where!!

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                                        Max9 yeah but it needs time to stretch
                                        And I think you might be exaggerating a bit lol😂

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                                            Sin ok, maybe like 3 to 6 cm...

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                                                Max9 ok, maybe like 3 to 6 cm...

                                                Let make a education tour.
                                                The vagina us usual closed because it is surrounded of muscles. It is quite flexible otherwise the baby would not come out.
                                                Their is no gaping hole where you can stick a soft fabric in.

                                                    Well, this conversation has gone sideways, for sure

                                                      If there were NO fetish crossovers from chastity it would be completely normal to show other women at the gym while changing. I used to change at the gym (not in the dead center) before I was very aware it was unusual and no one cared....

                                                      I think some of you guys jump or looked shocked or started shouting which scares the person next to you and then forces you into those positions where you have to explain yourself.

                                                      Maija my answer to the hymen curiosity is that it's really gross when women have torn themselves up from whatever they felt compelled to do and they don't look satisfied anyway they look injured...
                                                      So yeah I had a dilator before I got married and I love the way I look and feel... My husband is somewhat big for me but he was so patient and I don't think we had vaginal sex until several days of other sex.

                                                      As far as the premature ejaculation or the hard tearing thrusting I have heard that some men are so afraid of rejection that is what causes their mind to think it is a game to place seed and escape 😅 so it's all a game of a man feeling nervous over feeling loved.

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                                                        Max9 who wouldn't?

                                                        someone who is really freezing cold 😂

                                                        Joh Let make a education tour.
                                                        The vagina us usual closed because it is surrounded of muscles. It is quite flexible otherwise the baby would not come out.
                                                        Their is no gaping hole where you can stick a soft fabric in.

                                                        Dr. Joh explained it well (medical advanced training stage 1 completed) 😂

                                                        Maija Well, this conversation has gone sideways, for sure

                                                        yes, but good that despite the serious topic of the forum we still have room for funny aspects 😉

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                                                                While it seems natural and easy, sex is not always so the first time.
                                                                Mechanically it is not hard, but a lot of thing can be mentally hard. The anticipation, the anxiety, expectations.. There are high risks to not perform at its finest.
                                                                Knowing himself and knowing herself, knowing our bodies and what we need to fee good helps in doing the right thing for ourselves; knowing how we can feel good can help in knowing how, at least, helping someone feel good.
                                                                For how much a "first time" would be romantic, I have this convinction that a "disaster" or a "fail" would not be a so romantic "once in a lifetime gift".
                                                                Plus, having to do it with an u experienced person, I swear, is pretty hard. It is almost a job where you have to take care of the other person so much that there is little room for your needs. That if you care for the other one.

                                                                To gwt back in the topic: pretty positive discussion. Taking into account other people accident can be quite positive into thinking that it is somewhat part of normality and minimize the embarrassment coming from memories.