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ZeynepFox Turkish brides can get a certificate of chastity by gynecologists in Turkey or by Muslim gynecologists in Germany. If you want, I can upload mine after receiving it.

that would be interesting, but does it only apply to muslims (I'm just asking out of curiosity)?

ZeynepFox You can go to a Muslim gynecologist

do only muslim gynaecologists do this? i have never read about it from german ones.

ZeynepFox But maybe - at the beginning - his mother may want to observe and supervise the amount of sex we have. I don't know yet.

but after the wedding, no one but the two of you will be interested.

HHelen I also think such limitation should be good for both at the beginning.

for what reason? especially at the beginning of a marriage, sex life is something very special and intimate, which makes the promise of marriage even more valuable

Angelina that would be interesting, but does it only apply to muslims (I'm just asking out of curiosity)?

I would imagine kuffar's words are less trusted in the circles that pay a lot of attention to those traditional customs. Similarly,

Angelina do only muslim gynaecologists do this? i have never read about it from german ones.

I would not expect doctors with more western values being too keen on providing such services.

Avery Wake up, this is a completely different culture.

Angelina for what reason?

There is probably some merit to the whole "different culture" discussion, but how much is probably not something to which there is a one-size-fits-all answer. It is true that western civilization places a heavier emphasis on "the newlywed couple will start a new life of their own" aspect than some other cultures in the world, so I would not consider it unreasonable for parents to play a big role in the couple's life. But "different culture" only excuses so much, as plenty of atrocities and self-destructive behavior have been defended as tradition in the past.

Angelina i have never read about it from german ones

It's probably forbidden

youdontknowme But "different culture" only excuses so much

Completely agree, but saying rotten things about her future husband, and I realize YOU didn't post what I objected to, because he follows the culture he grew up in is not productive, I don't think.

Avery I think it can be seen as a side effect of the discussion getting rather heated. Personally, I feel like not letting the newlyweds breed like rabbits while there are still family functions to attend is one of the mildest values dissonances in this topic, compared to stuff like regular hymen inspections and a cultural norm of female submission, both of which I find highly objectionable if not based on freely-given consent. To point out that feels like the straw that broke the camel's back after it had been loaded with boulders already.

youdontknowme compared to stuff like regular hymen inspections and a cultural norm of female submission, both of which I find highly objectionable

Yup.

Angelina that would be interesting, but does it only apply to muslims (I'm just asking out of curiosity)?

Don't give parents such a crazy idea.

Christine not a bad idea actually.

Joh and to keep it against his will

If I understand right, it's not against his will

Joh He agrees to let his mother hold his bride's keys. Why it should be different?

Laura Because they are not married.

Laura It's probably forbidden

I don't know, I guess I could have it done if I really wanted to, but there is no medical necessity from my point of view.

Christine Don't give parents such a crazy idea.

i didn't do that. it's more about when, for example, german women want to have a "virginity certificate", in my opinion the parents are left out.

Laura But in this particular case his mother requires it, that means she doesn't trust him

This is one way to see it.
Another way is she doesn't trust her or she will be sure nothing can happen like rape.

Laura Yes, it is possible. It's not often but already done.
But she herself could also be raped by someone before she is married.

HHelen No, it's because her parents are irresponsible.

And just how did you arrive at that conclusion?