Joh With or without your belt?
And I cross my finger he will agree.

Without, methinks. Which makes me wonder if one could go to the beach in a fancy chastity bra and belt, perhaps at some toney place like South Beach or the Riviera, and it would be considered high fashion.

    Avery I think it is possible.

    Maybe you should follow the motto: if you're not trendy, you're a trendsetter. 😉
    Go with you belt but you need the bra as well.

    Avery I bought some new bikinis off of Revolve during their sale.

    Some of those are a little revealing but I wouldn't mind some of the tops and pants with the buckles.

    Avery at some toney place like South Beach or the Riviera, and it would be considered high fashion.

    One day yes it's the purest form of clothing to cover yourself 😄

      Megan Some of those are a little revealing but I wouldn't mind some of the tops and pants with the buckles.

      Good thought. I have to worry about the bottoms though, not the tops. I'm too flat on top to show too much but the bottoms are a problem. In my father's day girls did not show much at all down there. Now they are cut way low in front and many show most or all of your bum. So in order to pass Dad's inspection I have to buy at least a 3" wide thong. I know pretty much what he wants tho so I figure he'll let me wear what I bought.

        Megan One day yes it's the purest form of clothing to cover yourself

        I'd love to go out in my cable back.

        Avery So in order to pass Dad's inspection I have to buy at least a 3" wide thong.

        You don't have to push it that far if you don't want to.
        Guys will know you are a woman if you wear the entire pant and then you might be more comfortable.
        It's just up to how you feel you don't need to just barely get approved by your parents

          Avery

          that's really an interesting idea. just say "i'm not crazy i'm a hippster" 🤣

          Avery So in order to pass Dad's inspection I have to buy at least a 3" wide thong.

          you should not only do this for your father, but also for yourself. you are a woman as a whole, no one should reduce you to just your body, you can also be pretty without being slutty 😉

            Megan You don't have to push it that far if you don't want to.
            Guys will know you are a woman if you wear the entire pant and then you might be more comfortable.
            It's just up to how you feel you don't need to just barely get approved by your parents

            I'm not concerned with guys knowing I'm a woman, as you put it. I want to wear the smallest bikini I can get to stay on me. That's what I want, that's what the girls I hang with do. But I'm not going to defy my Dad, or change into something more revealing after I leave the house, like some girls do. Therefore I want to pass Dad's inspection.

              Angelina you should not only do this for your father, but also for yourself. you are a woman as a whole, no one should reduce you to just your body, you can also be pretty without being slutty

              I do understand what you mean @Angelina but among my friends we consider being slutty as being how you act. Of course there are places, like the classroom, or just walking down the street, where one must dress appropriately. The only bone of contention with my Dad is the beachwear and just the issue of how much I'm showing of my bottom.

                Angelina that's really an interesting idea. just say "i'm not crazy i'm a hippster"

                I wonder if one could wear the belt outside some tight pants, maybe to a party or something, as a fashion statement. That would really be announcing one's commitment to the world.

                  Avery I wonder if one could wear the belt outside some tight pants, maybe to a party or something, as a fashion statement.

                  Would you worry - being all over insta?

                  Also I'm thinking like a toy belt is one thing but mine is bloody expensive - like if people find out the cost it's not just a fashion statement any more

                  Need total butt crack pants too - the cable is snug! Yeah nah not me!

                    Jen Would you worry - being all over insta?

                    No. I'd be fully dressed.

                    Jen Also I'm thinking like a toy belt is one thing but mine is bloody expensive - like if people find out the cost it's not just a fashion statement any more

                    Mine was a few hundred, also from Australia. You know nothing of fashion if you think what we wear here is considered expensive.

                    Jen Yeah nah not me!

                    Has anyone asked you to do it? Mine is not so snug since I am not totally trying to block access.

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                      Avery You know nothing of fashion if you think what we wear here is considered expensive.

                      Not comparing to 'fashion' - next to what I or my friends wear it's expensive.

                      Avery Has anyone asked you to do it?

                      Nope just thinking about your comments😂

                        Jen Not comparing to 'fashion' - next to what I or my friends wear it's expensive.

                        I didn't mind the price so much because I'm concerned about safety, more than anything. Plus I wear it everyday and I don't think they ever wear out. Or maybe there are reasons one would have to replace them that I am not aware of.

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                          Avery Or maybe there are reasons one would have to replace them that I am not aware of.

                          Some have problems with the lining and have tried to replace it adequately.

                          Avery but among my friends we consider being slutty as being how you act.

                          how so? how do I behave?
                          I see what you mean, I just think that your body should have some value for you. you can show yourself sexy to anyone who is worth it, but really only to those who are worth it

                          Avery I wonder if one could wear the belt outside some tight pants, maybe to a party or something, as a fashion statement.

                          i think it depends what kind of party you are going to, i think at certain parties i could show the belt as a fashion item 🤣

                            Angelina how so? how do I behave?

                            That's just grammar. Possibly sloppy American grammar. You, in my sentence "as being how you act", does not refer to you personally. A better formulation would have been "as being how ONE acts", meaning anyone. I think French has a more useful construction with the use of their word "on". Anyway if someone says "you don't spit into the wind" it doesn't mean YOU don't, it means no one does it.

                            Angelina I see what you mean, I just think that your body should have some value for you. you can show yourself sexy to anyone who is worth it, but really only to those who are worth it

                            I have seen German women on the beach in Acadia National Park in Maine in the US without tops on. Does this mean their bodies have no value to them? I think not. Are they trying to be sexy? I think not. They are not doing it to entertain nearby men, tho American men gawk at them. They are, I think, doing it because they want to. I wouldn't do it but I don't make any moral judgements about these women who do because it is a part of their culture, like that English Garden park in München where people lie out naked. Among my friends wearing the smallest bikini you can get to stay on is a part of the culture we are in.

                              Angelina i think it depends what kind of party you are going to, i think at certain parties i could show the belt as a fashion item

                              It seems one must be careful though. This article says the manufacturers of anti-rape underwear are contributing to a blame the victim mentality. They might think my wearing a belt because I was assaulted was doing the same. I would fear that wearing one as a fashion statement might invite similar criticism.

                              https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2013/nov/11/problem-anti-rape-underwear-chastity-belt

                                Avery That's just grammar. Possibly sloppy American grammar. You, in my sentence "as being how you act", does not refer to you personally. A better formulation would have been "as being how ONE acts", meaning anyone. I think French has a more useful construction with the use of their word "on". Anyway if someone says "you don't spit into the wind" it doesn't mean YOU don't, it means no one does it.

                                yes, ok, i know such grammatical mistakes when i write from german into english, i will try to understand things better even if it is difficult.

                                Avery

                                if someone really wants to do that, that's ok too, i just sometimes worry that some women show off their bodies too much. unfortunately, i have seen some experiences from my school days and also now during my studies that are not good for women.

                                Avery This article says the manufacturers of anti-rape underwear are contributing to a blame the victim mentality

                                indeed, this can happen, that's why i wrote that we should be careful where we show this. these parties should then focus on the garment as such and not on the use of the garment. i also doubt that this anti-rape underwear really works well.

                                Avery want to wear the smallest bikini I can get to stay on me. That's what I want, that's what the girls I hang with do.

                                Okay then it is good for you to wear that as long as it is what You want yourself and not your others. Thank you for telling me!

                                Avery This article says the manufacturers of anti-rape underwear are contributing to a blame the victim mentality.

                                I heard those people were a scam, it definitely doesn't look comfortable to me I think I would sweat and have quite a smell after a day in such tight yoga pants.
                                It feels like a LOT of people blame victims because they are lazy and it's just easier for them to imagine someone else at 'fault'