kat_anders We know of several personally and those in the anti-vaxx movement have given many reports over the years which I have seen (most were only anti-vaxx after their kids had major reactions to the vaccines). Also it is commonly known in alternative medicine circles, when they get vaccine injured the standard medicine can do nothing for them and they turn to naturopaths to get help.

    Thomas

    so most of the children i know have already had many vaccinations as bybies, me too. i could only imagine that they were of poor quality or that the doctor made a mistake. a doctor should examine the person to see if there are any incompatibilities.

      Angelina When you know families who have never vaccinated, you notice that their kids never get sick compared to regularly vaccinated families where the kids "normal" is to be constantly be dealing with colds or this or that health issue. One of the main side effects of vaccines seems to be in a weakened immune system, but seeing most people vaccinate fully there are very few people that the average person can compare against. Doctors have no idea about the safety of vaccines, they just say what they have been told. It is always good for people to do their own research about ingredients and possible side effects of vaccines and not believe what the CDC and NIH who are vaccine patent holders. There are enough doctors out there who do not agree so anyone can get an alternative medical view if they want. I suggest that they do that. I wish my parents had done that.

        Thomas

        Diseases are eradicated by vaccines. End.
        If people do not get sick If people do not get sick with typhus, tuberculosis, some hepatitis, measles or smallpox, it is only thanks to vaccinations.
        What are there interests in vaccines? Of course.
        That humanity is indebted to them? Also.

        I remind you that there is no other way to fight viruses.

        And end of this discussion.

        Philip I am sorry you don't think that what I am expressing concerning my experience is valid and may harm children. I know no one who has died or come to harm from getting a childhood illness who was unvaccinated, but I know people who have had friends die while they nearly died from a "hot" batch of vaccine. I know kids who got Autism immediately after being vaccinated or had speech delays immediately afterwards. I know people who have been crippled immediately after having childhood vaccines also.

        These are my experiences among my friends and family, so I am sorry that this is not valid to you. This is not even getting into the covid vaccines where friends and family are having cancer return, getting life threatening blood clots, a lung filling up with blood and several heart problems immediately after getting one of the covid shots. Even the creator of MRNa vaccines nearly died after getting the covid jab and now is telling everyone it is a poor use of his technology and to not get any more.

        This may have strayed away from the topic but the discussion about ADHD and ASD and how vaccines have affected people with severity and evidence of symptoms was asked and it was appropriate that I answer it. There is plenty of information out there for people to do their own research and make up their own minds I am only suggesting people do that if they are concerned.

        There are several people on this thread who have shared their experiences with ADHD or ASD and that is awesome, This is my experience with ADHD and ASD. It is a pity if I am shown intolerance for my different experience.

        If I am deleted then that is sad but I still stand by my comments because they are what I have seen and experienced.

          cantsolvethecaptcha Thank you for validating my personal experience, I hope that others respect you and treat your experiences with the same respect that you show me...

          Philip I could argue vaccines, evidence and what many very excellent doctors say about them, but as you have already pointed out, we are getting off topic and so I will not continue to discuss the issue of vaccines out of respect for the focus of this forum. I am sure that you will do the same. I am sure that people who really want to know will do their own research through credible groups who hold both sides of this scientific topic. At the core of science is looking at competing theories or perspectives, verifying the data and determining which aligns with the data the best..

          I do appreciate that you have care for the welfare of people, I assure you that I do too.

          cantsolvethecaptcha B.) Known to be dangerous conspiracy theories with no scientific basis whatsoever.

          i disagree, personal experiences and opinions are not conspiracy theories. i am in favour of vaccination myself, but there are also arguments against it and @Thomas is welcome to explain them if he thinks that his illnesses are related to it.

          and a request to all. stay calm and objective on such a topic, everyone can have his or her own opinion on the subject of vaccinations. it is best to discuss such matters with a doctor you trust.

          Thomas I know from my personal experience that everybody who drinks water die.
          Can I say that water kills? No. Two parallel phenomen may not relate.

          Sorry but I trust science with controls groups etc. and not to you "experience".

          And I have to say that nobody from our friends have not problems after covid vactination longer than day or two.

          Howgh and Amen.