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curious what is wrong with going for strict 24/7 wearing?
It's an enormous inconvenience, night and day, and makes her even more different than she already is, a Muslim girl living in Europe.
curious If Amira decides for herself that in order to ensure her hymen is guaranteed intact she is prepared to live 24/7 in thigh bands
Explain that to all of us. Why she needs thigh bands to keep her hymen intact. You do not understand what you are talking about. Not even the basics.
curious we should accept her priorities rather than telling her to follow someone else's values instead of her own.
I made a suggestion that she try something different from the party line here that she must be in hardware. I only asked her to try one day a week doing it like the women in her home country do it.
Avery
Let me use a comparison:
In your world, failure to follow through with your goal of chastity would be the equivalent of catching influenza. Not nice but not the worst there is in life. Hence the level of protection you chose to get is trying to find a balance between the discomfort from that protection and the risk posed by influenza.
In Amira's world, failure is more comparable to catching Ebola. Not surprisingly, she is therefore opting for a much higher level of protection even though that protection is comes with a lot of discomfort.
And saying that level of protection is not necessary and encouraging to follow your example is not helping her. Neither is arguing that in predominantly Muslim countries most girls do not wear belts. That may be true, but given how society is organised in these countries, the risk is far lower there.
curious Not surprisingly, she is therefore opting for a much higher level of protection even though that protection is comes with a lot of discomfort.
She is not opting for anything. When her mother married her stepfather he insisted that she start wearing a belt.
curious In Amira's world, failure is more comparable to catching Ebola.
And why do you think she is going to fail? She is old enough to keep Ramadan. If she can go from sunrise to sunset for a whole month with nothing to eat or drink, not even a sip of water, I think she can go one day a week without touching herself. I can even do that and there's no way I could keep Ramadan for even a day. Or even 'til lunch time.
We are still waiting for you to tell us all why she needs thigh bands to protect her hymen. Good luck with that.
Avery
If I remember correctly, she herself decided that she wants to avoid exercises or movements that could pote tially damage the hymen and talked with her mother about volunteering for thigh bands.
Personally I do not care whether or not it is damaged, but if it is of such importance to her, then it is not for you or me to argue that this is wrong.
curious Personally I do not care whether or not it is damaged, but if it is of such importance to her, then it is not for you or me to argue that this is wrong.
This is a forum, so if @Amira writes something in the forum, it is logical that the rest of the users give her opinion, especially if it is well-founded and informed.
There are several occasions in which you have incurred the same behavior, also with me.
If @Amira did not want to talk about it, or did not want feedback, she would not write here. From now on, I would suggest that you continue to enjoy the forum, giving your opinion, contributing or even discussing, but do not try to prevent someone else from doing the same.
a good comparison, i see it similarly. for @Amira this is an important goal to stay chaste, so she should do what she thinks is necessary to achieve this goal. I don't think thighbands protect the hymen because @Amira doesn't wear them 24/7 for practical reasons, but I think she knows what she's doing.
PS: i don't think it has anything to do with whether she is muslim or not, she seems to behave very western, besides there are enough examples of christian girls here. we should stop linking this to religion
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Angelina i don't think it has anything to do with whether she is muslim or not, she seems to behave very western, besides there are enough examples of christian girls here. we should stop linking this to religion
I don't think so. Nowhere has she said she wants to reject her religion and her heritage. She says "I will give my parents the present of being pure and chaste until next Christmas". That's a Muslim thought, it's a gift. Since she came to the west what has happened to her? Her new (step-)father has locked her into a belt just as your father did to you.
Hello,
my christmas gift was my chastity-belt. I got them 2 days before 
Max9 Nice to meet you too, nice to meet all here too
The main language is englis but hope an short german answer would be ok? Schön alle hier kennen zu lernen! Ich nutze übersetzer um englich zu schreiben, wenigst teils. deutsch ist einfacher aber fairer ist englisch!
The translation: nice to meet all here. I use sometimes translater to write in english is mor easy for me. But more fair is english!
You are right at moment i like it! You could read them also too in my own post here 
Avery also the consequences for those women are very severe if they are thought or suspected of “immoral” behaviour. I don’t think the 2 can be compared.
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hanna_anders also the consequences for those women are very severe if they are thought or suspected of “immoral” behaviour. I don’t think the 2 can be compared.
In any case, Muslim societies have been in operation for 1400 years and seem to be thriving (1/4 of the world's population). I doubt they need our advice on how to live by their own values. Especially since we need to encase women in iron to live by ours.
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Avery I doubt they need our advice on how to live by their own values.
Agree with you, and anyway, they would not heard it.
Avery Especially since we need to encase women in iron to live by ours.
Well... only girls with the most elevated and delicate values do it. We are the state of art of feminity, and the belt guards us.
hanna_anders
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform, pause or reflect. — Mark Twain
hanna_anders we are very different to most western women.
Yes. But we can all learn from what @Amira says. "I will give my parents the present of being pure and chaste until next christmas." What an excellent Christmas gift.