Angelina Yes, but that doesn't have much to do with religion, on the contrary. @Amira wrote that her stepfather wants her in the belt because of western values

That has everything to do with religion. He objects to western values as a Muslim. As any Muslim would.

Angelina became more and more convinced that the belt is right so she became a volunteer.

I will not believe that until you can find me a quote where she said that. She's no more a volunteer than you are.

Angelina chastity is not necessarily a religious value but primarily a moral one

Please do not lecture on chastity. You are in a belt because your father found you masturbating four years ago so he forced you to be chaste by locking you in a belt. Now you want nothing more than to be out of it so you can fulfill your commitment to Camryn. I hope that happens soon but none of that says chastity to me.

Whether through religion or morals Amira has been chaste all her life. She can speak to what chastity is and is not. We could all learn from her.

          Avery I will not believe that until you can find me a quote where she said that. She's no more a volunteer than you are.

          I am wearing my belt and would want to take it off right now. But you are correct that I was not a 100 % volunteer at first.

          My stepfather is a muslim and not German 🙂

              Angelina how did the conversation go now, what did you say to your parents and how did they react?

              the conversation went pretty well and it won't be like there won't be a backing out if I couldn't take it anymore.

              I said that my main present for them this year is something immaterial and it will be that I will wear "it" without the sunday breaks for things that aren't cleaning and hygiene in the next year.

                  Amira I am wearing my belt and would want to take it off right now. But you are correct that I was not a 100 % volunteer at first.

                  My stepfather is a muslim and not German 🙂

                  Thank you for the clarifications. Your idea of gifting your chastity to your parents next Christmas is a beautiful thought. I am certain you will succeed.

                      Avery Your idea of gifting your chastity to your parents next Christmas is a beautiful thought. I am certain you will succeed.

                      thank you for your wishes! I will try my very best and I know it will be hard at times, but I know that this is the right thing to do for me.

                        Amira hello amira, in your old posts i found your breaking sundays who would come for me now!
                        Wish you all the best and i hope for you, you will never regret your present to your parents!

                            Natalia Wish you all the best and i hope for you, you will never regret your present to your parents!

                            Hallo Natalia! thank you very much! I am sure I won't regret it and I hope that your belt won't be too much of an annoyance for you

                                Amira I hope that your belt won't be too much of an annoyance for you

                                not so much and it's getting better every day 🙂

                                  Kaja ugh, I absolutely hate shaving the pricate parts. I also don't do it anymore. I just trim it down from time to time... the good thing about a belt is that you look smooth even if you're not shaved.

                                    Avery That has everything to do with religion. He objects to western values as a Muslim. As any Muslim would.

                                    I apologise at this point, I read that @Amira's stepfather is a Muslim, I remembered it differently, but what role religion plays in the decision of chastity is another question.

                                    Avery I will not believe that until you can find me a quote where she said that. She's no more a volunteer than you are.

                                    Searched especially for you: Topic: "The Big Change" 26.04.21 the last sentence of @Amira 😉

                                    Avery You are in a belt because your father found you masturbating four years ago so he forced you to be chaste by locking you in a bel

                                    that's true, but i only said that morality is the decisive factor. like me, my father is an atheist and his moral concept of keeping me chaste has nothing to do with religion.

                                    Amira that I will wear "it" without the sunday breaks for things that aren't cleaning and hygiene in the next year.

                                    I am curious if you will make it, I keep my fingers crossed for you. 😃

                                              Angelina I am curious if you will make it

                                              She will. She actually wants it.

                                                  Avery

                                                  i think so too, but wanting something and achieving something are two different things

                                                      Angelina wanting something and achieving something are two different things

                                                      True, but in my limited experience with Muslim girls here in the US they are so much more serious about their religion. They put us Catholic girls to shame. The priest has even complained that nobody gets married anymore.

                                                          Avery

                                                          she is a very proud girl, what kind of influence religion has please tell @Amira herself, but i also believe that she can make it. 🙂

                                                            Avery
                                                            LOL.
                                                            The brother-in-law of my. best friend from school is a pastor and once said, he really prefers funeral services over wedding services. While both are supposed to be definitive, more often than not these days, that holds only true for funerals.

                                                                curious While both are supposed to be definitive, more often than not these days, weddings end up in divorce.

                                                                Which may explain why priests see fewer marriages, as we are forbidden divorce. And the ten commandants forbid only adulterous relationships, not those without benefit of marriage.

                                                                    Avery as we are forbidden divorce.

                                                                    no one can forbid divorce, that is moral talk of the church. of course you should think twice about who you marry but divorce is not forbidden in any western country.

                                                                        Angelina divorce is not forbidden in any western country.

                                                                        True. But, e.g., in Brideshead Revisited, Julia declines to marry Charles, both being divorced, because she believes she will then be living in sin and feels she cannot be thus separated from God. She and Charles then both unfulfilled lives. Because she believed divorce was forbidden to her.

                                                                            Avery

                                                                            that may be, then the two should check their religion. a religion that forbids love can never be good

                                                                                Angelina then the two should check their religion

                                                                                Charles was not a Catholic, but he did tell Julia he understood.

                                                                                Angelina a religion that forbids love can never be good

                                                                                'Specially one that forbids love, or at least the physical expression of it, without benefit of marriage.