Single again chastity

Andrew Emotional and financial issues can create real compulsion and, depending on the situation, may be enough to speak of involuntary wearing of a chastity belt.

Well, I have always said that everything depends on the starting point.
It is obvious that what is desirable is a pure acceptance of the belt for personal ethics, but I am not absolutely against "bribery" either.
I say this because especially here I have seen bribery work with girls who were not basically reluctant to wear a chastity belt, but sometimes, in order to accept a keyholder's condition, the keyholder must add "some bonus".
Okay, it is not perfect, but I have seen that with my cousins, and it certainly does not tarnish the voluntary use.
Regarding peer pressure, well again, if in a family all the girls use it because they think it is the right thing to do, it is logical that they reveal a little bit if some other girl does not use it, or that they make her see that it is the right thing to do. Now, there were girls here in other times who were told that if they did not wear a belt, the family would be destroyed because she would be rejected. These are very different things.

Andrew are such a niche issue that it is difficult to formulate more general conclusions from the sociological point of view.

I tend to think that in upper classes the use is higher, and I believe and have said that sometime here years ago, in certain circles its use may be common, and I am talking about social elites well beyond the upper or affluent class that most of us girls here move in, and what @Barbara has written here and what I have talked to her about, does nothing but convince me more of that.
In certain more typically conservative circles they will worry about their daughters behaving properly just as they will not tolerate a son not walking a girl home or not holding the door for her or yielding to her. It is clear that in large social circles these rules, which for me are basic in my environment, are not followed.

Christine I didn't do anything I deserved a chastity belt for.

that's right, it was your mother's values, but if it's not your values, you can't really say that it's important to you that your mother can't have sex, you just want her to feel her own medicine

I would just like to comment briefly on the rest of the discussion. I call myself involuntary for 2 reasons. Reason 1: I cannot say no without negative consequences. Reason 2: I don't think chastity is good for me.
I don't want to comment on anything else because the discussion will divide the forum. Please be nice

curious No offence intended

Understood.
No problem, then.

Ines but I am not absolutely against "bribery" either

I find that acceptable too.

Ines Regarding peer pressure

I consider the pressure you describe to be acceptable. It does not exhaust the signs of violence.

Ines there were girls here in other times who were told that if they did not wear a belt, the family would be destroyed because she would be rejected

This is clearly psychological abuse.

Ines I tend to think that in upper classes the use is higher

These guesses are quite logical, but not supported by any evidence.

Ines In certain more typically conservative circles they will worry about their daughters behaving properly

Generally, the more conservative the circles, the higher the value of virginity, although not always. I know something about it from my own experience

Andrew I consider the pressure you describe to be acceptable. It does not exhaust the signs of violence.

Probably it is fundamental in order to build a tradition.

Andrew This is clearly psychological abuse.

I do not have doubt about it.

Andrew These guesses are quite logical, but not supported by any evidence.

Well, South American and European societies are different in many ways, but I think that after talking to her, many things that @Barbara says can be extrapolated... or at least interpolate.

Angelina well, through @Ines and her family you already knew about the belt, why did you wait so long?

Well, I thought it was impossible for it to work.
I imagined it as something complicated and that it would not work.
It wasn't until @Raquel proposed that she use the belt and I saw how even with the somewhat random rules that my wife put on it the belt worked, that I realized my mistake.

Laura

I answered it in other disscussion,Laura!

Andrew These guesses are quite logical, but not supported by any evidence.

i also believe that the use of chastity belts is higher in upper social classes, if only because a custom-made belt is not cheap and many poorer families could not afford it

Rafael Well, I thought it was impossible for it to work.

understandable, but if you liked the basic idea, you could have gotten tips from @Ines and her family on how to make it work. well, the main thing is that you're happy with the situation now, all of you.

Jonas But your aunt is wise, as she clearly doesn't want to fight with one of you either.

But she wants me to wear a belt too.

Jonas Do you think your mom is starting to see how hard chastity can be?

She is starting to see that her belt prevent what it's supposed to.

Jonas So would you wear your belt in order to keep the peace?

I don't think so.

curious The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?

First, but I don't need a chastity belt.

Angelina you can't really say that it's important to you that your mother can't have sex

Well, it was not important before, but she's convinced me.

Angelina you just want her to feel her own medicine

I wouldn't call it this way, she just needs a chastity belt.

Christine curious The question now is: Do you think chastity and purity is a value and worthy goal?
Or are you in the 'free sex and masturbation whenever I want' group?

First, but I don't need a chastity belt

What is necessary is not the point, because a belt - at least in most cases - is meant as a tool to ensure these values are adhered to even in times when your conviction to stick to your values is diminished (for example because you meet someone really nice and your hormones take over control of your thinking).
Besides: What about masturbation? Not doing that is part of purity as well (at least by the definition of your mum and aunt, who both want the belt to not only prevent sex but also that). So are you sure you do not need a belt when this part is taken into account too, because you never ever touch yourself?

curious for example because you meet someone really nice and your hormones take over control of your thinking

And it can happen to anymore. That's why a chastity belt is supposed to prevent it, rather than for punishment after it happened.

Renita
Exactly. And the decision to wear a belt should not be based on whether you think you need it (because if it turns our you do, then it is too late) but rather on if you value chasitty. If you do, the belt is a reflection of these values and the negative side effect in everyday life is something you just have to learn to cope.

curious No and no and no.

Kaja
We are well aware, that you do not consider chastity a value and object to everything and everyone who does. But again: This is about people for whom chastity is a value and who therefore want to use a belt seriously and not just like you as a sex toy for entertainment.