Single again chastity

Renita I doubt she is a nun, even if she claims opposite.

she won't be, but unlike you, she is no longer interested in wearing a belt.

MissBlossom Have the two of you ever discussed the way that she projected her needs onto you?

She was a single mom of me. Hence nothing to discuss.

MissBlossom Or does she view her need for a belt as a totally separate issue from the fact that she wanted you to wear one?

Right. She didn't think, that it could be applied to her now.

Angelina does your mother then have the opportunity to masturbate

Ofc.

Angelina it is strange how quickly the mother herself agreed to wear a belt.

Initially she didn't get my idea seriously when I took her measurement. Later I came with the belt and told her what I knew about her sexual activity. She couldn't deny it and had to agree for a belt.

MissBlossom I hope she gets some satisfaction in a moral or emotional sense from living her values.

Nothing about satisfaction or revenge.
We have very good relationship. She wears her belt coz she needs it, e.g. it's her choice, not mine.

curious All she is doing is restricting her ability to have random Sex, because she does not like her mother to show that kind of behaviour.

Right. And she knows why she has to wear a chastity belt.

Christine Initially she didn't get my idea seriously when I took her measurement. Later I came with the belt and told her what I knew about her sexual activity. She couldn't deny it and had to agree for a belt.

The question is:
Did she project her need to be belted on you and that was the reason why she kept you in the belt?
Or was that not projection of her needs but just ensuring you could not have "fun"? Why did she keep you in complete chastity then, making masturbation impossible for you?
If she projected her needs on you, that would suggest she should actually be kept under a far stricter regime and not be allowed any self pleasure, just the same as she treated you before.

Christine You’re mom sounds a lot like how I used to be, now I’m glad I wear my chastity belt.

Christine Nothing about satisfaction or revenge.
We have very good relationship. She wears her belt coz she needs it, e.g. it's her choice, not mine.

I was talking about your mom's feelings. I meant that I hope she feels better about herself now that she is behaving the way she believes that she should, with your help.

curious If she projected her needs on you, that would suggest she should actually be kept under a far stricter regime and not be allowed any self pleasure, just the same as she treated you before.

@Christine might not want to openly discuss masturbation with her mom.

However, @Christine, you could mention that she made sure you were never alone without the belt, and ask if that's something that she feels she needs.

If she says no, say "Ok. Let me know if you ever change your mind." All rule changes need to be consensual.

If she says yes, maybe she feels shameful or dirty about masturbating and she would feel better about herself if she were stopped. How she feels depends on her morality, not yours. As her key holder, you're the only person in the world who can help her if she needs this.

Angelina she is no longer interested in wearing a belt.

Her mom could set it as a condition.

Christine Initially she didn't get my idea seriously when I took her measurement. Later I came with the belt and told her what I knew about her sexual activity. She couldn't deny it and had to agree for a belt.

so you already ordered the belt when you talked to your mother about everything? i think that is quite a risk, the belt is not cheap and your mother could also have refused

Renita Her mom could set it as a condition.

Since christine is no longer financially dependent on her mother, her mother no longer has the means to impose these conditions.

Angelina her mother no longer has the means to impose these conditions

She can decline to wear her belt.

Renita She can decline to wear her belt.

It doesn't sound like she's wearing it for @Christine. It sounds like she's wearing it for herself because without it she does things with guys that she later regrets. She gets her benefit regardless of what Christine does.

curious Did she project her need to be belted on you and that was the reason why she kept you in the belt?

Possible. I wish I guessed it earlier.

curious Or was that not projection of her needs but just ensuring you could not have "fun"?

She regretted she didn't know about chastity belt when I was a teen.

Sasha You’re mom sounds a lot like how I used to be

Yes, I have the same impression.

MissBlossom and ask if that's something that she feels she needs.

I don't want to go so far yet.

Angelina so you already ordered the belt when you talked to your mother about everything?

No, we discussed before and she tentatively agreed.

Angelina think that is quite a risk, the belt is not cheap and your mother could also have refused

Then it could be one more empty belt.

MissBlossom It doesn't sound like she's wearing it for @Christine

Ofc, she doesn't. She didn't like her behavior, especially being caught.

Jonas Wanting to bring your own behaviour back in line with your own beliefs and values is a great reason to wear a chastity belt.

Methinks it might be a good reason to have one around in a tough situation but I don't believe one should default to a belt to behave in what one thinks is a moral fashion.

Avery It's an interesting point. I saw on NOFAP they want you to grow as a person and choose to refrain as opposed to being restrained but I don't think this applies to every person and problem.
Some moral failings aren't the result of complicated deeply held neuroses, they're just people acting out because they can. In fact they (we) only ever start to deal with our behaviour when forced to do so.
Eg. My own sex drive needs policing as opposed to pleasing or analysing. This is okay to me because I've broadened my sense of self to include the belt. It is an integral part of me.
This is not to say that people shouldn't work on themselves and strengthen their moral fibre, this is exactly right for some. But for others, we know what we should be doing, higher self style, and just want to get the job done already

Jonas This is not to say that people shouldn't work on themselves and strengthen their moral fibre

I think what sometimes is missing in normal life situations are support systems. I frequently mention Muslims or Mormons as groups which refrain (pretty much) from sexual activity outside of marriage and never use belts. This makes up 1/4 of the world. But they are immersed in societies which preach these ideas. I've tried to change my life situation to make not getting off easier and that has made working on myself and strengthening my moral fibre considerably easier.

Avery I frequently mention Muslims or Mormons as groups which refrain (pretty much) from sexual activity outside of marriage and never use belts

I wonder how many in those groups actually refrain as they are 'supposed' to instead of just keeping it quiet.

pestulens I wonder how many in those groups actually refrain as they are 'supposed' to instead of just keeping it quiet.

That probably tells us more about you than about them.

Avery I think what sometimes is missing in normal life situations are support systems.

The support and moral education should come from the parents.
I have the feeling our societies is loosing a moral and this view of the whole in which all people, beliefs and opinions are entitled to exist. They become more and more rigid in their view and deny the existence of others.

Different religions provide a framework in which one can grow up and which gives protection. But as with everything, it can be misused to establish extreme views or even extreme actions. The same applies to political parties or to those who no longer believe in anything and deny everything that does not fit into their world view.