Single again chastity

youdontknowme

curious I mean, what´s the point of a chastity belt if you can take it off like normal underpants in 3 seconds?

Staying in the habit of wearing it, and having something hard in the way of wandering hands.

Avery

curious I mean, what´s the point of a chastity belt if you can take it off like normal underpants in 3 seconds?

It's helped me a lot in weak moments, 'specially at night.

And it is kind of like Ramadan. The discomfort and inconvenience reminds one of how one wants to live one's life and helps one concentrate.

And as usual you make no allowance for girls wanting to do this and being able to exert some self-control. Everyone must be locked up.

Angelina

Christine She doesn't have to lock it. Also I see her often.

Then you should discuss clear rules about when and how she should wear the belt and how this can be organised.

Avery And as usual you make no allowance for girls wanting to do this and being able to exert some self-control.

But the situation with @Christine's mother is quite different from yours.

curious

Avery It's helped me a lot in weak moments, 'specially at night.

This was not about you but about @Christine mom and that she should follow her own rules.
If I remember correctly, her rules pretty much were locked 24/7 while single with zero orgasms allowed.
So it is not me asking for that but I simply point out that not locking her belt does nothing to make her live according to her own rules.

Avery

Angelina But the situation with @Christine's mother is quite different from yours.

OK. Just got carried away. One sentence too many.

Avery

curious This was not about you

True enough, but I don't like to miss any opportunity to oppose your seeming view that every girl need be locked in a belt.

curious

Avery
Not my opinion but your obviously skewed interpretation of some things I wrote.
Besides, but that is not the point here, when it comes to belts I think that rules are supposed to be equal for both genders.

Avery

curious when it comes to belts I think that rules are supposed to be equal for both genders.

Can't see why. Girls can get pregnant, guys can't. 1/4 of the world dresses women to the teeth and covers their hair, guys go about as normal, in the west many fathers secretly (or not so secretly) feel pride when their teenage sons get something [sex that is], and anger when their daughters are the ones getting got [sex that is].

No matter how you slice it, it is the girls who need protection (if they are amenable to it).

Andrew

Christine She doesn't have to lock it. Also I see her often.

Wouldn't it be better to leave her a key so she can open and close the chastity belt as needed? The need to open the lock is an additional obstacle, although mostly symbolic.

Christine

curious I mean, what´s the point of a chastity belt if you can take it off like normal underpants in 3 seconds?

I was asked about the current status. She will be locked soon.

Andrew Wouldn't it be better to leave her a key so she can open and close the chastity belt as needed?

It's called emergency key. Otherwise she is not supposed to take it off.

Renita Then you don't need to wait, put it on now.

I hope it wouldn't happen.

Angelina

we should never forget in this case that @Christine's mother kept her daughter in a belt for years against her will only because @Christine lived with her again. i think we must not compare the rules with a girl who voluntarily locks herself in a belt.

Renita

Christine If I have sex.

Then you don't need to wait, put it on now.

curious

Avery
Depends on your perspective. You consider the belt as means to protect yourself. But a locked man is no threat to you and then you don't need to protect yourself.
But I did not think about protection but rather in terms of the benefits of waiting with sex until you find the right partner for a long term relationship, potentially even marriage. Strengthening emotional connection and not falling for the quick but superficial sexual attraction instead.

Angelina

Avery No matter how you slice it, it is the girls who need protection

maybe need is the wrong word, because everything you describe comes from social contexts or religious motivations, if you change the origin of these problems, these differences between girls and boys no longer exist

Avery

curious but rather in terms of the benefits of waiting with sex until you find the right partner for a long term relationship, potentially even marriage. Strengthening emotional connection and not falling for the quick but superficial sexual attraction instead.

Possibly our only real disagreement then is on the use of the belt in achieving the above objective. I use it as a tool to help me through periods when I get randy. You seem to think one needs it all the time.

curious

Avery
I think that situations might occur where self control is not strong enough to actively make a decision pro chastity in that situation. For that reason I would indeed advocate for using the belt on a 24/7 basis with periods of unlocking limited to times when it is almost certain nothing will happen that might be regretted later. That way finding oneself in a situation overwhelming the baseline decision for chastity, the belt will stop any such attempts and overturning the decision pro chastity cannot occur on impulse but only with pre planning as a well considered decision.

Avery

curious I think that situations might occur where self control is not strong enough to actively make a decision pro chastity

I have been straightforward about having had some fails, (but none with boys).

curious For that reason I would indeed advocate for using the belt on a 24/7 basis

As I have said, and you have denied as recently as a day ago, you want everybody in belts. It's a difficult task. One dusts oneself off and keeps trying.

curious the belt will stop any such attempts

As I've said I keep the belt handy and use it fairly often at night in bed when the hands begin to wander.

Avery

Angelina maybe need is the wrong word, because everything you describe comes from social contexts or religious motivations, if you change the origin of these problems, these differences between girls and boys no longer exist

But when I leave the gym today at 4:30PM and it's almost dark the word need is probably the best to keep in mind.

Angelina

Avery But when I leave the gym today at 4:30PM and it's almost dark the word need is probably the best to keep in mind.

of course i know these problems, but don't forget that women's insecurity is the fault of men who simply can't handle themselves.

curious I am not saying don't fight back. I am saying a belt is not the ultimate solution for that problem.

of course the belt as such is not a real solution, but i think there is an advantage. no attacker expects a chastity belt, this 2 to 3 seconds of confusion can be enough to use further measures like running away, screaming or pepper spray.

curious

@Avery
You are mixing up two very different things.
1) Belt as protection against sexual assault
2) Belt to protect you from giving in to sexual urges that would cause you to violate your goal of chastity.

Personally I don't consider number 1 a good use, because it is potentially getting the attacker more angry and violent. But if you are a victim, I can see how at least you would feel protected.

For number 2 is is of course all about how acceptable fails are to you. If I was making the decision to actually go for a no orgasm lifestyle, I would not want any fails. Or in other words, fails would be worse than the disadvantages of being in the belt 24/7. In your case obviously you consider fails as no big deal, so your priorities are reversed. Your approach is 'belt as little as possible and just as much as needed', while based on the different priorities, my approach would be 'belt as much as possible with breaks as little as is necessary.
Nothing from with either approach, I just think everyone needs to find the right approach for his/her goals.

Avery

curious Personally I don't consider number 1 a good use, because it is potentially getting the attacker more angry and violent. But if you are a victim, I can see how at least you would feel protected.

Usually your talking about things you know nothing about is amusing, but here it's potentially dangerous. The police advised me that the best defense is to make things difficult for the attacker. They want a quick hit with a victim who offers no resistance. So you yell, kick them, hit them, try to run, make noise, so they will leave. A b elt will put them off. They want to deal with cotton panties, not steel belts. We've talked about this before here. That's what they teach you in the many classes there are for women who live in urban areas.

Avery

curious my approach would be 'belt as much as possible with breaks as little as is necessary.

I'm not impressed by talk. I'm making an effort.

Ines

curious Personally I don't consider number 1 a good use, because it is potentially getting the attacker more angry and violent.

Best way to achieve he becomes sweeter is let him rape us.
I hate feminist stuff, but in this case you will not say this to a boy involved in a street fight.
Do not punch so hard to enemy, or he will become more angry.
He is a rapist, a guy that will take the most valuable of a women and later maybe he will kill us, mutilate us or whatever... so, of course, runaway if you can, but if not, of course I will try to do a lot of things that he will not like them.

Andrew

Avery They want a quick hit with a victim who offers no resistance. So you yell, kick them, hit them, try to run, make noise, so they will leave

100% true for a typical sexual attack.

curious I am saying a belt is not the ultimate solution for that problem.

Of course it isn't, but it probably won't hurt either (unless it makes it harder to escape from rapist).

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