Sabina that would be the end of keyholding

..by your mother.

I would love Sabina to go dating, and present her perfectly valid reasons for her chastity regime after establishing some trust. There's lovers who not only grudgingly accept her chastity, but take responsibility - and keys. (There's even one story I could tell about the new boyfriend planning in earnest to keep the poor girl belted and without climax forever with no intercourse but reproductional one, should I include that in my "Fails" thread?) So yes, maybe the "usual" boyfriend chastity will not be as strict as some in this community prefer, but to me that regime is more attractive than sexual power exchange with your parents.

      Damien There's even one story I could tell about the new boyfriend planning in earnest to keep the poor girl belted and without climax forever with no intercourse but reproductional one, should I include that in my "Fails" thread?)

      Speaking as someone who's heading towards permanent chastity, please do!

        Sabina Chastity bra is 'cruel and unusual punishment' 😉

        We should do a poll on whether a chastity bra is going too far.

            Sabina I have never worn thighbands, but from what I read they are not comfortable

            The first thing you need is better belt with better fit. It can prevent what you were trying to do without thighbands or mitts.

            Sabina The mitts were quite bearable for sleeping, the problem appeared only when I had to blow my nose and I couldn't grab anything normally

            Forcing you to wear mitts was the real purpose of you mother e.g. another sort of BDSM game. Not your masturbation, because she forbids it, but doesn't even try to enforce.

            Sabina I do not date anybody since I start wearing belt 'seriously'

            Did you do it before?

            Sabina If I insisted on wanting the key, she'd probably tell me she could give it to me, but that would be the end of keyholding.

            Would you receive the key right away?

                      Jonas We should do a poll on whether a chastity bra is going too far.

                      Of course it is, like most of what we discuss here. Chastity has historically been defined as abstaining from penetrative intercourse, not from the natural and healthy pleasure of touching your body. Metal bras, like secondary shields, thigh bands or bondage mittens overshoot the chastity goal.

                          Jonas Yep, otherwise you can remove the belt and break chastity.

                          I didn't remove the belt, just unlocked it show mom, that I was about to go home in the unlocked belt.
                          The lesson was learned.

                          Jonas Yep, otherwise you can "forget to put the belt back on" and break chastity.

                          Mom accompanies me when I need to go without the belt, if possible.

                          Jonas If mitts are considered a chastity appliance

                          Nobody uses them for this purpose, because there are better ways.

                          Laura I think @Renita should be a keyholder, rather than a wearer

                          But I don't want to be a keyholder, I like to be a wearer 😃

                                  Renita The first thing you need is better belt with better fit.

                                  Belt is really tight and covers what should be covered. I can't masturbate wearing it. All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them. That's why I think, that my belt is secure and I don't see need to buy another one.

                                  Renita Did you do it before?

                                  Yes, during high school, but it was short and purely platonic relationships.

                                  Renita Would you receive the key right away?

                                  I suspect mom would have offered a period of time to think it over, but if I had demanded the key categorically, I would have gotten it immediately.

                                          Sabina Chastity bra is 'cruel and unusual punishment'

                                          @Vanessa wouldn't agree. But my point was not a chastity bra, but if you wear your belt for virginity, secondary shield should be the first in the list

                                          Sabina If not, she would refuse to take off belt

                                          Did you ask her or you only think so?

                                                Laura secondary shield should be the first in the list

                                                I wear secondary shield all the time.

                                                Laura Did you ask her or you only think so?

                                                This is our agreement. She also refused to take my belt off several times.

                                                      Sabina I wear secondary shield all the time.

                                                      It can be changed if it's detachable

                                                      Sabina She also refused to take my belt off several times.

                                                      On what occasion?

                                                            Laura It can be changed if it's detachable

                                                            There is no need for change, but yes, change is possible.

                                                            Laura On what occasion?

                                                            Mainly before meetings/partys with friends (girls). I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this. Sometimes she wouldn't let me take off my belt before shower, when I told her that I am very aroused and she didn't have time to supervise me.

                                                                  Sabina All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them.

                                                                  You would be the first girl on stop it!

                                                                  Damien not from the natural and healthy pleasure of touching your body

                                                                  Natural... I will not discuss it, even if it is not a absolute true, however, it is not healthy and much less desirable, I think that chastity is the absence of it, not the absence of successful ending.

                                                                        Ines You would be the first girl on stop it!

                                                                        I was a bit imprecise - I stopped trying when I wear my belt... 😉

                                                                            Renita Forcing you to wear mitts was the real purpose of you mother e.g. another sort of BDSM game. Not your masturbation, because she forbids it, but doesn't even try to enforce.

                                                                            Agree.

                                                                            Renita The first thing you need is better belt with better fit. It can prevent what you were trying to do without thighbands

                                                                            I do not think so.

                                                                            Laura However if I was you mom I would do punishments in following sequence. Secondary shield, thighbands, chastity bra

                                                                            Yes, I think it is the usual sequence.

                                                                            Sabina but from what I read they are not comfortable.

                                                                            Well, the belt itself is not very comfortable, but we have to use it because is necessary, not because is comfortable.

                                                                                    Sabina Belt is really tight and covers what should be covered

                                                                                    As I understand it's a cheap Chinese belt from a BSDM shop where your parents buy other toys.
                                                                                    An it's definitely not made just for you and it's not fitted perfectly.

                                                                                    Sabina I can't masturbate wearing it. All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them

                                                                                    Mostly likely, you have found a way. As for me I never stop trying.

                                                                                    Sabina That's why I think, that my belt is secure

                                                                                    You only think, because you never work really secure belt.

                                                                                    Sabina Yes, during high school, but it was short and purely platonic relationships

                                                                                    Then why did you stop? Your belt makes dates less risky.

                                                                                    Sabina but if I had demanded the key categorically, I would have gotten it immediately.

                                                                                    It should be excluded.

                                                                                    Sabina Mainly before meetings/partys with friends (girls). I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this

                                                                                    Not bad. But she should care more about security.

                                                                                    Sabina Sometimes she wouldn't let me take off my belt before shower, when I told her that I am very aroused and she didn't have time to supervise me.

                                                                                    Btw, this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.

                                                                                    Sabina I stopped trying when I wear my belt...

                                                                                    We all meant the same, e.g. trying with the belt on.

                                                                                                      Jonas Yep, otherwise you can break chastity whenever you like. You might as well just make a pinky-promise.

                                                                                                      Some people consider a promise more unbreakable than a couple millimeters of steel.

                                                                                                        Sabina I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this.

                                                                                                        Did you argue about this? Nobody wants to go to a party in the belt, and no parents would let her daughter go there without the belt

                                                                                                        Renita Btw, this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.

                                                                                                        What happened? Caught masturbating in the shower? 😂

                                                                                                              Renita As I understand it's a cheap Chinese belt from a BSDM shop where your parents buy other toys.
                                                                                                              An it's definitely not made just for you and it's not fitted perfectly.

                                                                                                              Yes, its cheap chinese belt from Aliexpress, but it was customized by my father to fit my body very well. With all respect for your knowledge and experience, I think that we (me and my parents) know the best, what is secure for me and fit my body.

                                                                                                              Renita Mostly likely, you have found a way. As for me I never stop trying.

                                                                                                              No. I don't need this... 😉

                                                                                                              Renita You only think, because you never work really secure belt.

                                                                                                              Yes, I never wear such belt. But why do I need it when my current belt fulfills its role in 100 percent, taking into account the mode in which I wear it?

                                                                                                              Renita Then why did you stop? Your belt makes dates less risky.

                                                                                                              Because I don't like the prospect of possibly explaining to my boyfriend what's on my ass.

                                                                                                              Renita It should be excluded.

                                                                                                              It can't be excluded, because that's the basis of our agreement. I would never agree to a chastity deal I couldn't back out of.

                                                                                                              Renita this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.

                                                                                                              Mom rarely supervises me while I wash, although she reserved the right to do so.

                                                                                                              Renita We all meant the same, e.g. trying with the belt on.

                                                                                                              I know about this, I only want to underline with this joke that (probably) I have more occasions for masturbation then most girls from forum.

                                                                                                                              Laura Did you argue about this?

                                                                                                                              I didn't argue, but for a few times I was trying convince my mother to let me go without the belt. Unsuccesfully.

                                                                                                                                  Laura What happened? Caught masturbating in the shower?

                                                                                                                                  No, she might not have time that everything is worn and locked properly after a break.

                                                                                                                                  Sabina but it was customized by my father to fit my body very well.

                                                                                                                                  If it's customized it makes sense. Hopefully the lock has been replaced to more secure one.

                                                                                                                                  Sabina I think that we (me and my parents) know the best, what is secure for me and fit my body.

                                                                                                                                  If you can't bypass it, it's secure 😃

                                                                                                                                  Sabina But why do I need it when my current belt fulfills its role in 100 percent, taking into account the mode in which I wear it?

                                                                                                                                  No, you don't need it.

                                                                                                                                  Sabina Because I don't like the prospect of possibly explaining to my boyfriend what's on my ass.

                                                                                                                                  Ass? Maybe you mean waist? I'm in the same situation, I was trying to convince my mom to let me go to a first date without the belt and she refused. I was trying to pick the lock without success.
                                                                                                                                  What are you going to do with it?

                                                                                                                                  Sabina It can't be excluded, because that's the basis of our agreement. I would never agree to a chastity deal I couldn't back out of.

                                                                                                                                  I meant "immediately". She should give you the key, but after a while. Say, next day.

                                                                                                                                  Sabina Mom rarely supervises me while I wash, although she reserved the right to do so

                                                                                                                                  Same. But it never happened so far.

                                                                                                                                  Sabina I was trying convince my mother to let me go without the belt

                                                                                                                                  Waste of time in my opinion if your mom is as strict as mine.