Jonas We should do a poll on whether a chastity bra is going too far.
Of course it is, like most of what we discuss here. Chastity has historically been defined as abstaining from penetrative intercourse, not from the natural and healthy pleasure of touching your body. Metal bras, like secondary shields, thigh bands or bondage mittens overshoot the chastity goal.
Jonas Yep, otherwise you can remove the belt and break chastity.
I didn't remove the belt, just unlocked it show mom, that I was about to go home in the unlocked belt.
The lesson was learned.
Jonas Yep, otherwise you can "forget to put the belt back on" and break chastity.
Mom accompanies me when I need to go without the belt, if possible.
Jonas If mitts are considered a chastity appliance
Nobody uses them for this purpose, because there are better ways.
But I don't want to be a keyholder, I like to be a wearer 
Renita The first thing you need is better belt with better fit.
Belt is really tight and covers what should be covered. I can't masturbate wearing it. All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them. That's why I think, that my belt is secure and I don't see need to buy another one.
Renita Did you do it before?
Yes, during high school, but it was short and purely platonic relationships.
Renita Would you receive the key right away?
I suspect mom would have offered a period of time to think it over, but if I had demanded the key categorically, I would have gotten it immediately.
Laura It can be changed if it's detachable
There is no need for change, but yes, change is possible.
Laura On what occasion?
Mainly before meetings/partys with friends (girls). I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this. Sometimes she wouldn't let me take off my belt before shower, when I told her that I am very aroused and she didn't have time to supervise me.
Sabina All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them.
You would be the first girl on stop it!
Damien not from the natural and healthy pleasure of touching your body
Natural... I will not discuss it, even if it is not a absolute true, however, it is not healthy and much less desirable, I think that chastity is the absence of it, not the absence of successful ending.
Renita Forcing you to wear mitts was the real purpose of you mother e.g. another sort of BDSM game. Not your masturbation, because she forbids it, but doesn't even try to enforce.
Agree.
Renita The first thing you need is better belt with better fit. It can prevent what you were trying to do without thighbands
I do not think so.
Laura However if I was you mom I would do punishments in following sequence. Secondary shield, thighbands, chastity bra
Yes, I think it is the usual sequence.
Sabina but from what I read they are not comfortable.
Well, the belt itself is not very comfortable, but we have to use it because is necessary, not because is comfortable.
Sabina Belt is really tight and covers what should be covered
As I understand it's a cheap Chinese belt from a BSDM shop where your parents buy other toys.
An it's definitely not made just for you and it's not fitted perfectly.
Sabina I can't masturbate wearing it. All my attempts was unsuccesfull, so I stop them
Mostly likely, you have found a way. As for me I never stop trying.
Sabina That's why I think, that my belt is secure
You only think, because you never work really secure belt.
Sabina Yes, during high school, but it was short and purely platonic relationships
Then why did you stop? Your belt makes dates less risky.
Sabina but if I had demanded the key categorically, I would have gotten it immediately.
It should be excluded.
Sabina Mainly before meetings/partys with friends (girls). I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this
Not bad. But she should care more about security.
Sabina Sometimes she wouldn't let me take off my belt before shower, when I told her that I am very aroused and she didn't have time to supervise me.
Btw, this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.
Sabina I stopped trying when I wear my belt...
We all meant the same, e.g. trying with the belt on.
Jonas Yep, otherwise you can break chastity whenever you like. You might as well just make a pinky-promise.
Some people consider a promise more unbreakable than a couple millimeters of steel.
Sabina I don't like wearing belt during such meetings, but Mum don't agree for this.
Did you argue about this? Nobody wants to go to a party in the belt, and no parents would let her daughter go there without the belt
Renita Btw, this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.
What happened? Caught masturbating in the shower? 
Renita As I understand it's a cheap Chinese belt from a BSDM shop where your parents buy other toys.
An it's definitely not made just for you and it's not fitted perfectly.
Yes, its cheap chinese belt from Aliexpress, but it was customized by my father to fit my body very well. With all respect for your knowledge and experience, I think that we (me and my parents) know the best, what is secure for me and fit my body.
Renita Mostly likely, you have found a way. As for me I never stop trying.
No. I don't need this... 
Renita You only think, because you never work really secure belt.
Yes, I never wear such belt. But why do I need it when my current belt fulfills its role in 100 percent, taking into account the mode in which I wear it?
Renita Then why did you stop? Your belt makes dates less risky.
Because I don't like the prospect of possibly explaining to my boyfriend what's on my ass.
Renita It should be excluded.
It can't be excluded, because that's the basis of our agreement. I would never agree to a chastity deal I couldn't back out of.
Renita this is new for me too, she unlocks me belt for shower only when she has time to look after. Otherwise I have to wait.
Mom rarely supervises me while I wash, although she reserved the right to do so.
Renita We all meant the same, e.g. trying with the belt on.
I know about this, I only want to underline with this joke that (probably) I have more occasions for masturbation then most girls from forum.
Laura What happened? Caught masturbating in the shower?
No, she might not have time that everything is worn and locked properly after a break.
Sabina but it was customized by my father to fit my body very well.
If it's customized it makes sense. Hopefully the lock has been replaced to more secure one.
Sabina I think that we (me and my parents) know the best, what is secure for me and fit my body.
If you can't bypass it, it's secure
Sabina But why do I need it when my current belt fulfills its role in 100 percent, taking into account the mode in which I wear it?
No, you don't need it.
Sabina Because I don't like the prospect of possibly explaining to my boyfriend what's on my ass.
Ass? Maybe you mean waist? I'm in the same situation, I was trying to convince my mom to let me go to a first date without the belt and she refused. I was trying to pick the lock without success.
What are you going to do with it?
Sabina It can't be excluded, because that's the basis of our agreement. I would never agree to a chastity deal I couldn't back out of.
I meant "immediately". She should give you the key, but after a while. Say, next day.
Sabina Mom rarely supervises me while I wash, although she reserved the right to do so
Same. But it never happened so far.
Sabina I was trying convince my mother to let me go without the belt
Waste of time in my opinion if your mom is as strict as mine.
Well, if you like the belt - have you ever thought about wearing a chastity bra?
Renita What are you going to do with it?
Nothing by now. When I finish my studies, I will solve this problem somehow.
Renita I meant "immediately". She should give you the key, but after a while. Say, next day.
As I wrote, my mother would certainly try to delay the removal of the belt to give me time to think about the decision, but knowing her nature and commitment to the concept of consent, which is very important in the BDSM community, I cannot imagine her refusing to release me if I demanded it from her.
