Parents found out - gave them the keys

George Dunno about that, I personally prefer the likes of SMF, PHPBB or vBulletin. But this community feels small and topical enough thatsomething like Flarum may be adequate.

youdontknowme

youdontknowme And as for identity verification, that would probably catch the older not-so-gentlemen roleplaying as young women, but that says nothing about whether the rest of their experiences is genuine while also scaring off a whole lot of legitimate members.

Exactly, it would serve little purpose. Beside that it would not work globally. I always snigger about "online exams", "online verification of physical IDs", where the institutions themselves (or better even use 3rd party proctoring services) to make sure that it's student X that is doing the exam.

1. I'm not sure why nobody seems to realize that nearly all webcams connect via USB. There are literally single board computers out there optimized for video numeric processing with USB host interfaces and USB gadget/device interfaces included, meaning they can connect a real webcam, could be programmed to alter the data, and then pretend to be a webcam. Which are basically UVC, USB standard devices in most cases. This is BSc practical work level for CS students here around for the SBC/stream stuff, and the video alteration for AI/Datascience students. (AI students learn literally how to train networks to modify images in their first year in their Intro to AI classes)

2. but you can literally go way more low tech. Student X is sitting at a desk against a wall. Not something that you can reasonably forbid. How do you prevent that the test is actually taken by person Y behind a wall, with a HDMI/USB cable going through the wall? Physical KVM switch for the USB/HDMI cables that not even the best proctoring software on a locked down Windows PC can detect.

youdontknowme I do not think we should take any report we see here as evidence that the exact things described in it are actually happening. But the ones that are completely removed from reality usually tend to get bored quickly, or tell tales so tall they are completely unbelievable. Anyone who has stuck around for weeks deserves at least the benefit of doubt.

Obviously. I think I even mentioned that I reserve in my posts to replace identifying details with semantically, in the context of the post, equal details.

One thing that I think many people question is how so many "children/(young) adults" don't simply run to the authorities. The whole scale of voluntary to involuntary wearing, because it's certainly not a simply binary question.

Then especially family provides for the young not only economic resources, but usually also things like a home, social contacts, education, …

I think what people don't realize that situations are individual and complicated.

Another side note, the better situated a family, the more niceties a family can provide (not all do, most do) to their offspring. I do admit that this site has triggered a bit of retrospective for me, but I realized that most of my better friends/acquaintances when I was younger, from "better socio-economic classes" usually had some form of a what I call "devil's deal" in place. And no, none of them involved something as benign as a chastity belt.

In the best cases only one "crazy parent" who harassed the kid. (And I mean it, in that case I know that multiple psychiatrists have expressed the desire to see her mother for chat. Purely to understand the family system better. But mum knows that she is fine, it's all the others that are sick.)
But dropping the contact with the family is not an option, the rest of the family is important to her. As is her inheritance,

So I don't see the big problem as some with stories that some poor lazy persons sell their "sexuality" for a car, or a place to sleep or tuition fees. It's all individual cases, it's all complicated, and from my life experience especially for youngsters, it can be very complicated and painful to cut that virtual umbilical with their parents when they really become independent. Redefining that relationship with your parents is hard, IMHO.

George some poor lazy persons sell their "sexuality" for a car, or a place to sleep or tuition fees.

"Poor lazy person" seems like a rather judgmental choice of words there. And I think the issue is not so much the quid-pro-quo involved, but more whether the "bribe" in question is something that patents would customarily provide with fewer strings attached, or that grown-up children even have a widely-recognized right to. Which would depend a lot on location of course, and applies more to shelter and education than to something like a car or monetary gifts.

George And no, none of them involved something as benign as a chastity belt.

Now I am imagining what would make 23/7 physical restraint look benign. It is not just about not having free reign to have sex, that is quite a common policy whose enforcement has varying degrees of success. It is also about an unyielding piece of metal clamped to the wearer's body all day and night, in a place that is fairly high-maintenance no less, and all the struggles that come with that.

You brought up emotional stressful relationships already, but those may not strictly be an either/or deal - the belt may well be a symptom or even a catalyst for an exhausting parent-child relationship.

George One thing that I think many people question is how so many "children/(young) adults" don't simply run to the authorities. The whole scale of voluntary to involuntary wearing, because it's certainly not a simply binary question.

Then especially family provides for the young not only economic resources, but usually also things like a home, social contacts, education, …

I think what people don't realize that situations are individual and complicated.

That is why I do not necessarily think of anti-abuse resources as the first resort, but knowledge of one's rights and recourses can be a bargaining chip in any discussions about those things.

youdontknowme

youdontknowme "Poor lazy person" seems like a rather judgmental choice of words there. And I think the issue is not so much the quid-pro-quo involved, but more whether the "bribe" in question is something that patents would customarily provide with fewer strings attached, or that grown-up children even have a widely-recognized right to. Which would depend a lot on location of course, and applies more to shelter and education than to something like a car or monetary gifts.

I've seen more than once words applied that suggested that wearers should just forego the "unnecessary comforts", and one can also study without having your parents pay your way or your car.

(I wouldn't know. OTOH, I do remember a girl who I picked during my student days, which was a bit surprised about my car. All students had a car with motorized leather seats and walnut on their console, right? I mean perhaps not in the evil USA but in our good old socialized Europe, in the good old days when I was young and beautiful, that must have been in part of the basic student aid package, right?)

youdontknowme Now I am imagining what would make 23/7 physical restraint look benign.

Let's say, physical torments disappear. Or at least, disappear much easier.

Psychological abuses (even if not sexual), form who you are.

The classical list includes (but is not complete, I would have again probably thing for some time, age and Covid make be forgetful :

• highly dominating parents (in one case I had at least one family, where the kids got literally the wrong "roles" for the inheritance assigned, my then girlfriend was basically doing anything but to take begging publicly on knees to be trained to take over the company, while the younger son wanted to be an engineer, but guess who was penciled in for a JD & MBA? Two very good consumers to psychologists as adults resulted, but then the family was relatively reach, their company had over 1000 employees.

• parents who use kids as substitute partner (non-sexual). Non-funny. And very crazy family life if one parent decides that the partner is not mature enough to take important decisions, and starts to discuss serious family, business, investment decisions with a 14 years old kid.

• add hyper helicoptering as opt-on. Clean anything behind the kid as much. Sounds cool, but if not done carefully can leave the kid totally unprepared for the real world living in an alternative reality. Especially if the protective bubble is ever lifted.

• add total ignoring parents. Parenting by handing over a credit card, but they are good parents, they might look even once a year at the report card, and ask twice a year the servants if the kid is eating healthy. (Now to defend my parents here, my sisters where real assholes that took much more of their attention. Being the good kid who always had good grades and never needed the lawyer, in one word boring, had his advantages/disadvantages.)

• talking bad about your kids, literally. I had literally parents who talked down their own kids. Basically destroyed their self-worth. (Mine might not have build up mine much, but at least they sold me always to the outside as a mix of Davinci and Jesus the Almighty, one tries to learn to deal with the embarrassment.) In front of the kids. How they are useless, will never be worth anything, achieve anything.

The problem is I could continue the list. Some of that stuff is obvious, some is not so obvious, especially is you are used to it, and you stand there how can you stand it, but for the persons involved, this is their life.

George Hitachi magic wand is everything a female with a chastity belt needs, and basically no belt can be so well tailored to prevent a Q-tip coming under the shield.

I don't know about the situation with women, but wearing two models of belts (and probably more than 10 models of cages) I had no problems with coming during stimulation with a wand vibrator.

George nd basically no belt can be so well tailored to prevent a Q-tip coming under the shield.

Or use a feather

George I've seen more than once words applied that suggested that wearers should just forego the "unnecessary comforts", and one can also study without having your parents pay your way or your car.

Have not seen much of that myself. Any encouragement to pack your bags and run has been when people have already been considering it. Like Lukas with his sister, who was prepared to do that, but, partially because he had that option, was able to come to an agreement everyone involved could live with.

George Let's say, physical torments disappear. Or at least, disappear much easier.

Oh yeah, the lasting input of emotional abuse and poor support cannot be neglected, but that is also not something that running away would fix.

Plus you need to take into account that use of physical restraints like chastity devices non-consensually is, in itself, closely tied to emotional abuse. Either as a symptom or even as a catalyst by sparking more conflict between the two parties. Restraining someone's body against their will is pretty much the ultimate sign of distrust, treating someone as if they are as uncivilized as a wild animal. To say nothing about the little abuses tied to involuntary belt wear, like loss of privacy, schedules for the performance of basic self-care and what not.

Now, this is obviously much less severe in quid-pro-quo chastity arrangements than it is in coercion that relies on threats of violence or ostracism. But non-consensual chastity is not an alternative to emotional abuse, but a companion.

George it can be very complicated and painful to cut that virtual umbilical with their parents when they really become independent. Redefining that relationship with your parents is hard, IMHO.

I think everyone goes through some anguish the first time they make a big decision that their parents don't approve of.

For me it was my husband. My parents didn't approve of him and I wanted to marry him. They never threatened to disinherit me or cut me out of their life or anything like that, but it was still difficult to trust my own judgement when the people who had guided me my whole life were telling me to do something different.

For some people it's their career, their educational choices, or something else, but making your own decisions is part of becoming an adult, and I think it's often difficult at first.

MissBlossom

I think everyone goes through some anguish the first time they make a big decision that their parents don't approve

I have so much anguish about my decisions even when my parents do approve.

WriterAlexis Offtopic. It seems you have received a registration confirmation e-mail to you hotmail address. It worked this time. However I still don't recommend to use hotmail or outlook mailboxes for this purpose

George So the old fashioned "think and engage your brain, potentially google some stuff" technique is the best we have.

Doesn't take much thinking lol

George that @Angelina is real and stand alone from @Laura. Is it a fantasy? Probably not, because the site is rather somber.

I always didn't care if someone really believes me or not, but clearly I'm not paid by Laura to post here

According to what I said, I come from a similar situation (I was a minor at the beginning and was locked in a belt against my will), but I also have doubts about some of the stories here. But I have to make one thing clear: I leave it up to each user here to decide whether he/she believes my story and the other way around I never say openly whether I believe a story or not because it's not my job, I think in any case users have to decide for themselves