Vivian's belting journey.

VivianChaste

exactly! i am in that camp having it be locked as much as possible is mostly from a gender euphoria perspective rather than kink

pestulens

thank you! dont worry i am aware of cleaning breaks if need be i can also use a cage i already got while i prep for the belt

Padre

i have yet to see where to find one, but i do want a bra

Rina

bra and thigh bands are something i desire mostly to be totally secure. maybe something i will work towards but do want. and i will keep the rings in mind, also connectors for a future bra?

as for clothes, i am willing to only wear skirts/dresses

as for proper lady, this is mostly just me being me i guess. but i see this belting journey as a way to change how i do things overall. so with proper lady i suppose i mean tightly scheduled, studies alot, lots of chores, way less screen time maybe even. going backwards a bit i guess haha. i will still have to define this or what i want

as regarding a holder, irl it will be tough to have one, i would need one from here i reckon

Renita

VivianChaste also connectors for a future bra?

Definitely.

Padre

VivianChaste i have yet to see where to find one, but i do want a bra

You could start with a cheap Chinese bra to find out how it is wearing one. If you like it you can always look for a made to measure one from My-Steel for example. To make it even more secure you could have chains connecting the bra to the belt also. Then you will be quite sure it stays where it should be.

So it will be wise to have D-rings at the side of the belt and an extra D-ring in the crotch area for the thighbands. Then you can have a chain pulling your legs together when you will be sitting. Very lady like.

Rina Solo keyholding is kind of hard without using a timed lockbox, I'd recommend having a keyholder you can 100% trust, if possible.

A timed lockbox is better than nothing. But a real KH is much better. Remote KH is possible if you find someone you can trust. Trust is very important of course. You can also think of a combination of a timed lockbox and a KH in order to get to know each other and build trust. You can set a long time for the lockbox for example. And if you need to be unlocked before the box opens the KH can unlock. You can set a guaranteed maximum time then. If the trust builds you can increase the time for the lockbox.
There may be other options as well. Give up control and being completely at the mercy of your KH may be a next (big) step. If your KH says no it really is NO then. Then the experience will be very real.

youdontknowme

I would say thigh bands might be a good experience for practicing a more ladylike walking or sitting posture, but for the purpose of taking your penis out of your sex life, they are largely superfluous, a belt is perfectly capable of doing that by itself. Worn in public, thigh bands also increase your risk of accidents that cause injury and your chastity belt being detected, may, depending on length, add difficulty to climbing stairs and generally make it harder to respond to emergencies. If you decide to accept that risk and wear them anyway, regular breaks from them for exercise are still recommended for health reasons.

Angelina

VivianChaste lifestyle, i could schedule my day to day to make myself a more proper lady or not!

i would exclude this point from the others because everyone here would probably define what an proper lady is differently.

apart from that, you have already received a lot of good tips, which i can only agree with. Thighbands are actually unnecessary for you, but if you want some, remember the D-rings, these have to be ordered separately.
i don't know if you need a bra, but i know that mysteel offers the bra for both genders (don't know what the difference is), it probably fits better anatomically then. it might just be something that matches your outside even more to your inside, although you can of course also wear a normal pushup for that

Milord

Padre There may be other options as well. Give up control and being completely at the mercy of your KH may be a next (big) step. If your KH says no it really is NO then. Then the experience will be very real.

But ALWAYS with emergency key at home

pestulens

Milord or some tools if it comes to that.

Laura

Milord But ALWAYS with emergency key at home

This destroys the whole idea

Milord

pestulens

No, in case of emergency key is the simplest way to get out. As you know my wife had a very bad accident she is still recovering. Luckily she was unbelted but, even with key, if belted it would have been impossible to remove even with key

In emergency you have to use the fasted way to do things, and for getting out of the belt the fastest way is the key. That's all.

Milord

Laura

You mean you have no emergency key?

Angelina

Laura This destroys the whole idea

Milord But may I gently ask you and @Tjc to avoid endorsing an unsafe behavior?

so, having an emergency key is always the better alternative, but the system will only work if the key holder notices when the key is being used. @Sara2001 had a good system for this with sealed envelopes, the keys were always accessible but never without the knowledge of the key holder. however, an emergency key only helps if it is quickly accessible in an emergency. in my case, the emergency key (in the safe in the living room) would have been of no use when I was out and about

VivianChaste Well uh thats unexpected. Im still unsure as i dont even have a keyholder yet to worry about keys...

sorry if the discussion is drifting a bit, but maybe you can take something with you in case you find a key holder 😉

pestulens

Not necessarily, standard emergency key in a tamper-evident container. It's there in case you need it, but you can still be held accountable for how you use it. If you don't live with your keyholder, it's the only way I can think of to set up a keyholding relationship safely.

Of course, It somewhat depends on what the point is in the first place, but I think for @VivianChaste's goals it would work fine.

Rina

pestulens standard emergency key in a tamper-evident container

In my opinion, it sounds the best way. If keyholder does regular check-ins of that container, since it's tamper evident, chastity belt rules both wearer and keyholder agreed upon would be able to be enforced. (So if such container is tampered, wearer will have to explain why emergency key was used.)

Laura

Milord You mean you have no emergency key?

Right

Tjc

Milord In emergency you have to use the fasted way to do things, and for getting out of the belt the fastest way is the key. That's all.

The fastest way to remove a belt is with tools used by emergency medical services. This damages or destroys the belt but that is minor compared to the need to remove a belt in an emergency. Keeping this in mind means not having to rely on an emergency key. In am emergency, it may not be possible for the wearer to access the emergency key or tell others how to find it or use it. Removal with emergency tools is fast and easy for responders. This is, of course, only our opinion based on my experience as a long time wearer, without an emergency key.

luhuixin

VivianChaste I say focus on the belt first. What's your budget? How much can you spend? If you can't buy the branded ones, go for a Chinese belt first. As other say fit is the first nain issue. Hygiene is what you plan. 24/7? Try a few hours first then see how long you like it on. Pee many times to find the sitting position as with no 2.

Clothes arent really the issue unless you wear super skin tight. Hip style is good for jeans - most or waist style for dresses.

Check https://www.brassiered.com/enchaste/contents.html

Milord

Tjc

Let's say you have an immense pain coming from the part closed in your belt. While you are suffering unbearable pain you will:
1) call your keyholder to urgently get there and open you
2) call emergency medical services and wait for them to open you
3) use hacksaw or other tools
4) use emergency key

Which one is fastest? Which one is the most logical one?

Milord

Tjc This is, of course, only our opinion based on my experience as a long time wearer, without an emergency key.

This is like saying "This is, of course, only our opinion based on my experience as a long time driver, without safety belt."

I hope you never need it.

Milord

Laura

No comment Laura. It's your life. But everyone else, don't do as Laura and get an emergency key.

Tjc

Milord 1) call your keyholder to urgently get there and open you
2) call emergency medical services and wait for them to open you
3) use hacksaw or other tools
4) use emergency key

5) go to the emergency room or hospital where you will need to be treated for whatever is causing the unbearable pain, have them remove the belt, and treat what is causing the pain.

Laura

Milord Both approaches have pros and cons

Bryan

Laura What do you see as the "cons" for an emergency key, safely protected by some sort of tamper evident storage?

Milord

Laura

Safety should be a primary concern of everyone, ESPECIALLY of parents. I honestly can't understand this but I understand almost nothing of your life, so basically I'm trying to abstain from even comment it.

But may I gently ask you and @Tjc to avoid endorsing an unsafe behavior?

Not having an emergency key is a very dangerous thing. If I need to explain it I will, but I hope that is pretty obvious.

Laura

Bryan What do you see as the "cons" for an emergency key

Too free an interpretation of "emergency"

Milord Safety should be a primary concern of everyone, ESPECIALLY of parents.

As @Tjc said the belt can broken easily

pestulens It will take willpower to not use the emergency key when you shouldn't.

Right

pestulens If your motivation for wearing is about feeling secure, having an emergency key might interfere with that.

An cope with a situation too

Milord but honestly there are situations I'm unable to consider healthy.

Why? If all sides agree