Sara2001 I think a good solution is to have a spare key in a closed envelope that can't be opened without noticing in a box that is locked with a kind of seal that can be destroyed easily but not on accident.

Seems a good idea,yes.

Sara2001 he will decline to be my keyholder for at least a year

Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

Angelina i am very surprised about the consequence and somehow not quite sure if this is more of a punishment or a reward. 😂

Me too!😉

          Vanessa Would it means no more chastity belt,or another keyholder(who?your father?)?

          He would give me the key, then it's on me what to do with it.

              Sara2001 We have these kind of red lines. If I use the key without his permission and without a good reason and without talking to him first, it's a clear signs, that I don't want to continue our lifestyle, so I think it's a perfect consequence.

              would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

                  Angelina would it then mean giving up the lifestyle in general or would that then only refer to the partial aspect of your equipment?

                  It would mean that we have to deeply think about our lifestyle and if it is still the right thing to do for us. I think depending on how it happens, he may want to pause our lifestyle, too. That's why it is such a powerful punishment. If I ever want to change my situation, I will definitely avoid this way.

                      Sara2001

                      so it's more of an all or nothing decision and your equipment and the rest of your lifestyle are connected? really sounds like a punishment now

                          Angelina so it's more of an all or nothing decision and your equipment and the rest of your lifestyle are connected? really sounds like a punishment now

                          The relationship itself would stay, but we would have to definitely re-establish the trust between us and many other things. I will do anything to prevent it. If I feel that I need more orgasms, I will find ways that work with his support. Even if I have to wait longer for it to happen. I think I will never have an orgasm on purpose without his permission.

                              Angelina For me it sounds like they working on the relation and find out a way how it will fit for both. The same as you doing. The different is in the kind of relation.

                                  Sara2001

                                  this also makes sense, if you really can't stand living this lifestyle anymore it is better to talk to Daniel openly than to break it secretly and endanger the relationship. trust is the most important thing no matter what kind of lifestyle you have.

                                  Joh For me it sounds like they working on the relation and find out a way how it will fit for both. The same as you doing. The different is in the kind of relation.

                                  i don't doubt that. the all or nothing was related to the lifestyle and not to the relationship in general.

                                        Sara2001

                                        Interesting possibility!😉

                                        Sara2001

                                        I can understand it,yes,if it do not only impact your chastity belt.

                                        Sara2001 we would have to definitely re-establish the trust between us

                                        If you stop your lifestyle,but stay a couple this way,you would not trust you anymore?Even for a single bad choice?

                                        Joh

                                        Right.

                                        Angelina if you really can't stand living this lifestyle anymore it is better to talk to Daniel openly than to break it secretly and endanger the relationship.

                                        I agree.

                                                    Vanessa If you stop your lifestyle,but stay a couple this way,you would not trust you anymore?Even for a single bad choice?

                                                    No, if I have an orgasm on purpose without his permission. If we have a long talk about our lifestyle and then we change it, of course everything is fine.

                                                        Joh OK. Than I got it wrong. Sorry.

                                                        No Problem 🙂

                                                        Sara2001 No, if I have an orgasm on purpose without his permission. If we have a long talk about our lifestyle and then we change it, of course everything is fine.

                                                        i'll be honest, if you are at that point you should talk about your lifestyle first and not afterwards. it would be better for your mutual trust.

                                                              Angelina i'll be honest, if you are at that point you should talk about your lifestyle first and not afterwards. it would be better for your mutual trust.

                                                              That's exactly what I wanted to say. If I am at this point, I should have talked a long time before to him. To prevent me from not talking about it, this is a very useful punishment.

                                                                  Sara2001 That's exactly what I wanted to say. If I am at this point, I should have talked a long time before to him. To prevent me from not talking about it, this is a very useful punishment.

                                                                  i agree that it makes sense, and talking is always the best way, and there should be no need for punishment.
                                                                  I am glad that you also see it that way 😃

                                                                      Angelina i agree that it makes sense, and talking is always the best way, and there should be no need for punishment.
                                                                      I am glad that you also see it that way

                                                                      There is no need to go through this punishment, but I think it makes sense that it is in place.

                                                                          Vanessa To make you more tending to talk before disobeying purposely?

                                                                          It's not back talking. It's talking about something that is on my mind and important for me. During my weekly maintenance session I am supposed to talk about these kind of thoughts. I can't say it often enough. Talking is the key.

                                                                              Sara2001
                                                                              I agree and is so important in every relationship.

                                                                                Sara2001 There is no need to go through this punishment, but I think it makes sense that it is in place.

                                                                                right, but if this punishment should be necessary, something is generally wrong, then the belt is probably the smallest problem.

                                                                                  Sara2001 It's talking about something that is on my mind and important for me.

                                                                                  It's what I meant,yes,I don't thought about back talking.

                                                                                  Sara2001 Talking is the key.

                                                                                  Right.