Sin

No problem understanding that here. 🤣 But then again your lot did stray from here (or did we boot you out? I forget 🤣 )

Angelina yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.

As far as I know it is not necessary to have any lesson with an instructor.

    Jonas Sure, that must be v. hard to hear, but again, it's great keyholding!! 😁

    it would have been great key holding if this had been agreed beforehand, so i see it more as a threat of further tightening

    youdontknowme

    ah ok, it seems a bit complicated to me because this is not allowed in germany

      Angelina Nor most of the EU, but even here in Europe, some of the less densely populated countries, like Finland, have some sort of program where you can learn to drive without relying on instructors. Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

        youdontknowme Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

        lol it might come as a bit of a surprise but we actually have cities here in Australia! It's not like we drive into the outback to practice our driving.

        We do a written learners test, and once we've passed that we have to clock up a certain amount of hours before we get a provisional licence. It would cost a fortune to do all of the driving hours with an instructor. So we learn to drive on actual suburban roads and freeways just like everyone else. It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

          youdontknowme Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

          I don't think the amount of empty space has really anything to do with it, rather the government regulations and such. Although most of our "cities" are rather small (around 20k - 50k) on the big perspective... Maybe it has more to do with the fact, that we are better drivers that average 🤣 (more WRC and F1 champions per capita than any other country!)

          Sin ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

          And ours have moose and reindeers! Very rarely, even another cars have been reported to be seen, but I'm a little sceptic of those reports...

          Sin I know, but it is a fairly observable pattern that countries with less population density tend to have easier paths towards getting a license. Just like the USA. They have some of the largest metropoleis in the world, yet also many rural communities where the only way to get around is by car. I was not trying to suggest that there are extra options to learn how to drive because you are unlikely to run into other people.

          Sin It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

          But unlikely in the cities where most of the learners drive.
          I found it very scary to drive through the country in the evening and see the big red kangaroos near the road on the grass. If one of them jumps into your car ....

            Max9 But depending on how close to the car they jump out, you might not be able to brake in time. Which is the reason why we tend to have lower speed limits in cities than on highways, and even lower speed limits near schools.

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              Sin It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

              How about koala bears. They are just about my favorite animal.

                youdontknowme that's true. You must never drive faster as the situation allows it. That's why there are fences among the Autobahn. To prevent deer from jumping on the road.

                Joh I found it very scary to drive through the country in the evening and see the big red kangaroos near the road on the grass. If one of them jumps into your car ....

                Yep they're such moronic creatures. At night they see the light from your headlights and they jump straight into your path. Driving at dusk on country roads is a recipe for disaster.

                Max9 you always need to be able to break immediately when you drive.

                You won't even see them coming! They bound in from the sides of the road through heavy bush and BAM!

                Avery How about koala bears. They are just about my favorite animal.

                Nah we cooked all of them in the fires last year. They barely even exist now. :-(

                  Sin You won't even see them coming! They bound in from the sides of the road through heavy bush and BAM!

                  That's why you may slow down when you see a bush ahead if there are no fences along the road

                    Max9 That's why we don't have autobahns... Maximum speed is 110km/h. Lots of heavy bush (forest) and no fences.
                    :-(

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                      Sin Nah we cooked all of them in the fires last year. They barely even exist now. :-(

                      Bummer. I remember hearing about it and people giving money to help. A real tragedy.

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                        Avery They're full of Chlamydia anyway... We don't get them where I am. We get Quokkas so that balances everything out in the cute department. 😁

                          Sin We get Quokkas so that balances everything out in the cute department. 😁

                          Wow, those are really cool. I don't think I remember hearing about them before.

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