Cars and driver licences

Angelina

Jonas Sure, that must be v. hard to hear, but again, it's great keyholding!! 😁

it would have been great key holding if this had been agreed beforehand, so i see it more as a threat of further tightening

youdontknowme

ah ok, it seems a bit complicated to me because this is not allowed in germany

youdontknowme

Angelina Nor most of the EU, but even here in Europe, some of the less densely populated countries, like Finland, have some sort of program where you can learn to drive without relying on instructors. Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

Sin

youdontknowme Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

lol it might come as a bit of a surprise but we actually have cities here in Australia! It's not like we drive into the outback to practice our driving.

We do a written learners test, and once we've passed that we have to clock up a certain amount of hours before we get a provisional licence. It would cost a fortune to do all of the driving hours with an instructor. So we learn to drive on actual suburban roads and freeways just like everyone else. It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

LazyGoat

youdontknowme Really all depends on how much empty space your country has.

I don't think the amount of empty space has really anything to do with it, rather the government regulations and such. Although most of our "cities" are rather small (around 20k - 50k) on the big perspective... Maybe it has more to do with the fact, that we are better drivers that average 🤣 (more WRC and F1 champions per capita than any other country!)

Sin ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

And ours have moose and reindeers! Very rarely, even another cars have been reported to be seen, but I'm a little sceptic of those reports...

Angelina

youdontknowme eally all depends on how much empty space your country has.

then i don't need to hope for any relief in germany, the number one bureaucratic country. 😂

youdontknowme

Sin I know, but it is a fairly observable pattern that countries with less population density tend to have easier paths towards getting a license. Just like the USA. They have some of the largest metropoleis in the world, yet also many rural communities where the only way to get around is by car. I was not trying to suggest that there are extra options to learn how to drive because you are unlikely to run into other people.

Joh

Sin It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

But unlikely in the cities where most of the learners drive.
I found it very scary to drive through the country in the evening and see the big red kangaroos near the road on the grass. If one of them jumps into your car ....

Avery

Sin It's just that ours have kangaroos on them occasionally!

How about koala bears. They are just about my favorite animal.

Max9

Joh you always need to be able to break immediately when you drive.

Sin

Joh I found it very scary to drive through the country in the evening and see the big red kangaroos near the road on the grass. If one of them jumps into your car ....

Yep they're such moronic creatures. At night they see the light from your headlights and they jump straight into your path. Driving at dusk on country roads is a recipe for disaster.

Max9 you always need to be able to break immediately when you drive.

You won't even see them coming! They bound in from the sides of the road through heavy bush and BAM!

Avery How about koala bears. They are just about my favorite animal.

Nah we cooked all of them in the fires last year. They barely even exist now. :-(

youdontknowme

Max9 But depending on how close to the car they jump out, you might not be able to brake in time. Which is the reason why we tend to have lower speed limits in cities than on highways, and even lower speed limits near schools.

Max9

youdontknowme that's true. You must never drive faster as the situation allows it. That's why there are fences among the Autobahn. To prevent deer from jumping on the road.

Vanessa

Joh

Surprising!

It would be useful,at least for the basis of driving...

Avery koala

Very cute!🙂

Sin We get Quokkas so that balances everything out in the cute department.

I didn't know these;they're cute,too,yes!🙂

Max9

Sin You won't even see them coming! They bound in from the sides of the road through heavy bush and BAM!

That's why you may slow down when you see a bush ahead if there are no fences along the road

Avery

Sin Nah we cooked all of them in the fires last year. They barely even exist now. :-(

Bummer. I remember hearing about it and people giving money to help. A real tragedy.

Sin

Max9 That's why we don't have autobahns... Maximum speed is 110km/h. Lots of heavy bush (forest) and no fences.
:-(

Joh

Max9 It is difficult. Would I do it and slow down to the speed I can stop my car in any situation I would need two or three times longer. Have in mind the distance are much larger. Melbourne to Sydney is around 1000km and from West to East around 4500km.

Sin We get Quokkas so that balances

Oh, they look cute. I have never been in West Australian and didn't know them.

Max9

Sin we also have a lot of forests, but we just build fences that get checked on regularly. We have a smart traffic control system, a tower where cameras and sensors show at what place did happen an accident or when there's a traffic jam so that they can limit the speed and slowly slow traffic down when there's something ahead. We also have long acceleration lanes to bring the cars to the usual speed before entering the autobahn itself ... and to slow cars down when leaving the autobahn without slowing the whole traffic down. As well as special laws, like the obligation to always drive on the very right lane except when overtaking someone, as well as that you are only allowed to overtake on the left side. We also have very straight and plain lines and wide and easily visible curves... that all makes it safe to drive at high speed. A lot safer as on most roads in most of the countries in the world... only the Autobahn systems in foreign countries with tolls are safer ... because hardly anyone drives there due to the fee.

Sin

Avery They're full of Chlamydia anyway... We don't get them where I am. We get Quokkas so that balances everything out in the cute department. 😁

Avery

Sin We get Quokkas so that balances everything out in the cute department. 😁

Wow, those are really cool. I don't think I remember hearing about them before.

Avery

Jen there's heaps of koala crossing areas near me - lots of road signs - but I've never seen one on the road. But if you go for a bush walk you can see them Sin

Wow. Australia is such an interesting place. And Australian chicks are in high demand here.

Jen

Avery there's heaps of koala crossing areas near me - lots of road signs - but I've never seen one on the road. But if you go for a bush walk you can see them

Max9

Joh Melbourne to Sydney is around 1000km and from West to East around 4500km.

Oh, that's really a long distance. For 1k km I usually need about a day (ok, I do a lot of sightseeing), so let's say about 2k km for 24h (a real lot for one day) ... means that you have to sleep one night in the car if you want to drive from east to west.... when slowing down at bushes you would have to sleep one more time in the car.

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