Angelina

No chance that he accepts to let you have you first time before marriage,like when engaged?

      Vanessa

      maybe i won't have to wear tighbands and bra anymore, but the belt will definitely stay until the wedding 🙁

          Angelina

          It wouldn't help you to lose your virginity before the wedding night,but it would still be a huge improvement!🙂

              Vanessa but it would still be a huge improvement!🙂

              and that must be the goal, my father always said clearly the belt stays until the wedding. so i will try to improve the other devices

                  Angelina

                  Wise decision.If you've no chance to make him change his mind about the chastity belt,you should focus more on rules you may succeed to change.

                      Vanessa

                      exactly, there are rules where I know in advance that they cannot be changed, but I do have a few possibilities 🙂

                          Angelina

                          Do you think you would be able to get rid of the chastity bra and thigh bands soon?Or not before,at least,1 or 2 years?

                              Vanessa

                              to get rid of it completely will be difficult, maybe before the wedding but not before I am engaged (and when I am engaged my father expects us to get married very soon so that I don't take advantage of the freedom), but I think I can soon get some relief, especially from the tighbands 🙂

                                  Angelina

                                  Understandable that it wouldn't be completely off before getting engaged,but good if you can have less strict rules about it soon! 🙂

                                  In my case,I don't think my rules would change much until marriage,or,at least,until I live on my own(except the chastity belt,it should stay on until I get married)....🙁

                                      Vanessa

                                      nevertheless i hope that you will get some relaxation, latest when you live alone or better said with emilie it will be difficult with the bra and the thighbands 🙂

                                          Angelina

                                          I guess it would not be possible to use the thigh bands if not living at home anymore.The chastity bra may be possible,but I would manage to have it off in this situation,I think.

                                          However, the belt would stay on until I get married...

                                              Vanessa

                                              that would probably be the same situation as with me. although my plans are more like moving out at the same time as my wedding

                                                  Angelina

                                                  But,if I remember correctly,your father would rent a flat or similar for you and your wife,right?

                                                      Vanessa

                                                      yes, as a gift for our wedding. therefore, my wedding and my moving out will probably be very close together

                                                          Angelina

                                                          It's a good idea too,to move on your own flat/house soon after you get married.Even if uncommon,generally,people marry some times after living together.

                                                              Vanessa

                                                              well, it is planned that camryn will stay with us for a few weeks or even months before our wedding, but we have no income of our own, so this is the only way

                                                                  Vanessa

                                                                  of course it is not perfect but as long as we don't have a permanent job we have to accept this condition.

                                                                  besides, there are worse wedding gifts than getting a flat financed 😉

                                                                      Angelina

                                                                      Sure,it is a very nice gift,and well related to a wedding,as it would make possible for you to live together soon after you get married!🙂

                                                                          Vanessa

                                                                          we want to design the flat beforehand so that we can live there immediately after the wedding 🙂