While this thread is interesting is that we get to see how people think about wearing chastity devices, the whole concept of rules, as agreed to by a community of people, does seem a little silly.

If a person in a chastity belt keeps the keys then the "rules: are whatever that person wants and (can change constantly). So why bother? 🤣

If there is an interested and committed keyholder, then the rules are whatever they want them to be. Instead of "he who has the gold makes the rules" - it literally becomes "he who has the keys makes the rules" At that point the wearer becomes either willing, reluctant or unwilling.

I suppose the wearer then becomes deliriously happy, or unhappy or somewhere in between 🤣

Is there more? Am I missing something?

    Foxies

    Foxies the whole concept of rules, as agreed to by a community of people, does seem a little silly.

    I agree, with you.... Mainly. But it is true that some elements are pretty universal in a "healthy" relationship. I think that here nobody intends in write "laws in stone".

    Foxies If a person in a chastity belt keeps the keys then the "rules: are whatever that person wants and (can change constantly). So why bother?

    Yes, she can be a girl with a chastity belt, but, of course is not a user in essence. I think that there are necessary 3 elements: belt, girl and key holder.

    But, this is my opinion, no more.

            Verrouille Considering this, I am not a willingly wearer. And I think that now I am not a fetishist anymore.

            then you have an involuntary lifestyle ??? (sorry, the definitions are getting too exhausting 😂 ).

                Angelina
                I proposed to be belted, she accepted and now she makes the rules, including rules against my will (I dream about masturbating for example but it is out of question for her!), so I'm a little bit an unwillingly wearer I guess, no? So I think we can discuss about "ideal rules" but the reality is that the rules are those edicted by the keyholder.

                    Verrouille

                    that is why i always recommend that the rules should be clear beforehand and limited in time. then there is no reason to discuss changes within the time frame (except in an emergency).

                        Ines

                        I understand what you are saying, and I suppose there are as many views as there are people expressing them in this thread. For me, the entire raison d'etre is the dynamic that exists between me and my keyholder. I admit the only reason I am interested in the belt is my partner and the keys that she holds. If she refused to hold the keys or lost interest in why she holds them, I would ditch the belt in a heartbeat even if I had to cut my way out of it.

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                            Foxies
                            Yes. For me is identical. The axis is not the belt but the relationship and the feelings that my dependence arise on me.
                            If behind the belt there was not a keyholder that make us feel protected and safe, the belt would be only a piece of metal.

                              Verrouille

                              If it is willingly,there could be an agreement about possible releases,while using it seriously.Several of us here are using it seriously,but have releases.

                              Foxies If a person in a chastity belt keeps the keys

                              It is why wearing a chastity belt while keeping the keys is mainly useless.

                              Angelina

                              I agree.If rules have to be changed,these should be accepted again.

                                      Vanessa It is why wearing a chastity belt while keeping the keys is mainly useless.

                                      Hence why I wrote, "So why bother?"

                                        Vanessa It is why wearing a chastity belt while keeping the keys is mainly useless.

                                        right, i think a relationship with the key holder should always be there (even for involuntary ones like us)

                                            Vanessa

                                            1 point for you, I hadn't even thought of that 😉

                                            but an interesting thought 🤣

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