shinydiamond77 I am aware, but it's the same as with thigh bands - I'd rather not do anything than make her wear a chastity bra. In my view those devices are just completely unacceptable.
I agree completely. Can't see any harm anyway in her playing with her breasts.
Avery I've read on the net about girls who can orgasm simply by stimulating their breasts. I can't manage it but for belted girls it might be a useful technique to master.
@Sara2001 can do it 
and yes it could be useful, i can't. but if parents find out it can very quickly lead to a chasttity bra
shinydiamond77 The shield on my daughter's belt is firmly pressed against the body, it's impossible to move aside or pull away at all. There is no way to make a gap between the skin and the shield anywhere.
even if she pushes the skin down hard enough?
shinydiamond77 In my view those devices are just completely unacceptable.
it's good that you don't think about it, but to simply say it's unacceptable that would shorten the debate, there are reasons for these devices, they should just be worn voluntarily in my opinion.
Angelina
Well, even if I agree with you in this, thigh bands should be a "must" sometimes, I understand that for @shinydiamond77 they can be unacceptable.
It is her opinion 
Angelina even if she pushes the skin down hard enough?
Mine the shield is curved and the sides push down I can get a finger tip under the side but I'm pushing into the side and it's no good. From the front I can just reach enough to be nice but I need more, like I really need internal as well to finish.
But it only helps if you have the basic ability to do so.
Ines , thigh bands should be a "must" sometimes,
you should really do some advertising for thighbands 
i have had similar experiences. without thighbands i can stimulate myself minimally, but it is definitely not enough for an orgasm.
Angelina I don't know if it has anything to do with that
I may be trying too hard. I read things like "I need to be incredibly relaxed, otherwise, I overthink it and can’t get there." That sounds like me. And "don’t focus on whether or not an orgasm is building; just enjoy the sensations for what they are."
Avery I think there's a mental component too, visualization, fantasizing, to make up for the lack of genital stimulation.
I don't know if it is really possible to learn or to teach. I just had explored my body. Nowadays I wear my chastity bra all the time, so I can't stimulate me there.anymore.
Angelina that is good
Why?
It would better if it could work with the belt...
Avery I can't manage it
I can't too...
Angelina if parents find out it can very quickly lead to a chasttity bra
I think so,too.
Even if it depends on the purpose of the chastity belt;useless to be sure she stays virgin until marriage,for example.
Angelina But it only helps if you have the basic ability to do so.
I agree.
Angelina without thighbands i can stimulate myself minimally, but it is definitely not enough for an orgasm.
Often the case.
Avery I may be trying too hard. I read things like "I need to be incredibly relaxed, otherwise, I overthink it and can’t get there." That sounds like me. And "don’t focus on whether or not an orgasm is building; just enjoy the sensations for what they are."
i have already tried this, but either one needs physical prerequisites or i cannot relax enough, although i can stimulate myself.
Sara2001 I don't know if it is really possible to learn or to teach. I just had explored my body. Nowadays I wear my chastity bra all the time, so I can't stimulate me there.anymore.
you once wrote that it is like a kind of orgasm. did you ever try to orgasm this way before your relationship?
Vanessa Even if it depends on the purpose of the chastity belt;useless to be sure she stays virgin until marriage,for example.
Of Course, but for some parents virginity means no orgasms no matter what way
Vanessa It would better if it could work with the belt...
sorry i misread, i thought it worked with and without the belt
