I wonder does some parents for sure putting CB on thier kids ?

hornyaspie2 I thought dear Peter (Piotr) if you like that left-wing excrement(faeces) of yours, you should like LGBTQ too, no cherry-picking

I thought dear hornyaspie2, if you like that right-wing excrement(faeces) of yours, you should only marry a conservative Catholic woman, no cherry-picking

While I class myself as a political centrist, the point is progressive liberal thinking has supported your freedom of choice, and has given you a voice with which to express it.

Sin You're a gay conservative Catholic from Poland with a disability? Those liberal lefties with their crazy ideals are the reason you haven't been lined up against the wall and shot.

That makes everything sound so strange ...

Sara2001 I made the experience here, that many things that I describe about my situation and that doesn't feel really bad for me are seen more bad then they are for me until I describe them more.

that's right, at the beginning i was very apprehensive about the way you conduct your relationship, but after you wrote a little more, i realised how happy it makes you.

Sara2001 I think this is the most important aspect that is drastically underrated by people who suggest going to the authorities. I often feel that they think that we are not aware of these options or that we are not aware of the fact that our situation is not the norm. We found this place because of this awareness and we joined this forum because the decision if we accept or go to the authorities was (normally) already made. By the way, I think this is the reason why nobody here write about how he/she decided to go to the authorities and how it ended.

thank you thank you 100% no 120% agree

hornyaspie2 Why you saying that you not deserve for gratification, I know that in some cultures they cutting girl clit and think it's very inhuman and vile and the same goes for albeit with lesser extent to classical male circumcision.

I don't say that I deserve something or not. I wanted to say that there is nothing bad about the Idea of focusing on your partners pleasure to make the partner happy, no matter if you get something in return. Of course this must not be an all time one way street, but it is not necessarily equal.

hornyaspie2 And what happened that yours father forced you to wear belt?
I tried to find old you post to better understand you, but it's to many posts to dig it out.
How all this started?

i answered you about this in another thread, in short i got caught masturbating. if you search relatively at the beginning of the intruduction topic you will see how it all started

Ines

I only like to differentiate a bit reason for wearing,easier with a name fitting the situation!

I feel the ones who accept to wear it in exchange for something(more freedom,a car,etc...)is not totally willingly,but not totally reluctantly,too.

Sara2001 I don't wanted to sound aggressive, maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive. I often have the same feeling when native Spanish people (not especially Ines) write in English. I think it would be good for the whole community when we keep in mind that English is not the first language for many of us

I'm not used well in german(and not much more in spanish),so I may feel it more aggressive than it was,yes.But,if you noticed it,you should take care to make clearer it was not aggressive,especially during an argument.

Sara2001 Of course not, but if I follow her arguments saying that there can't be a real person who is "forced" by parents with pressure or whatever and is not running away or calling the authorities, she would be a troll based on this definition, like you and me.

It is more a general statement,and each case is different,after knowing a bit more the poster.I'm too very careful about new users,always trying to guess if it is a potential troll or not(and,generally we can guess it better after some talks).

Sara2001 I agree with this part of the job, but I think an important part of trolls is that they come and go fast and that they rush things a lot, like getting a belt 2 days after the order and things like that. I am very sure that not everyone who has to wear the belt unwillingly and is not trying to destroy their familiy is automatically a troll.

No,but,as I said,we can not always know it after only one or two posts.Better be careful than letting too many trolls coming here.

Sara2001 becoming a small minority here

Not the case.

Angelina Most of the trolls write a maximum of 5 posts here, in which they try to bring in the extreme as much as possible. however, they usually disappear quickly if they get bored.

But I think it is partly too because we make them understand they're not welcomed,and several of us shows clearly we don't trust them.Or if we tell their other accounts name(some trolls made several ones,like Hanka).

Jen

Right!

Sara2001 I can honestly say that I am absolutely happy about my relationship with Daniel and I think it is difficult to understand for outsiders

What can be a bit shocking for readers is to notice it is now way stricter than what was planned at first.

Vanessa What can be a bit shocking for readers is to notice it is now way stricter than what was planned at first.

Yes, I can understand that. I never had the plan to be that submissive, but with all the trying and bootcamps, we where able to try things. I am very happy that I had the chance to explore these things without fear and I am sometimes as surprised about my feelings as you.

Sara2001

I think it is easier for users here since the start,or almost,as we can notice how it evolves,and make you happy,but for someone discovering it in only a few days,it can seems very hard.

Vanessa I think it is easier for users here since the start,or almost,as we can notice how it evolves,and make you happy,but for someone discovering it in only a few days,it can seems very hard.

Understandable.

Angelina i have a deep distrust towards the authorities who in my opinion are much more abusive than my father.

Quite. I also have experience in this regard. Unfortunately.

An for another example in a relatively well run country: [https://www.20min.ch/story/maedchen-8-schildert-wie-es-vom-vater-missbraucht-wurde-875007993947].

And to be honest @hornyaspie2, you sound rather naive after the ongoing Covid fiasko.

Sara2001 I don't wanted to sound aggressive, maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive.

Germans tend to be very direct and hierarchical.

This is why a lot of them have intercultural issues when communicating with other cultures.

Whereas a German just says "Nein" (no) an also German speaking Austrian will say "Schau mer mal" (let's see).

So if anybody uses English in German way this might cause a lot of friction.

So everybody please keep this in mind.