I wonder does some parents for sure putting CB on thier kids ?

Ines

I only like to differentiate a bit reason for wearing,easier with a name fitting the situation!

I feel the ones who accept to wear it in exchange for something(more freedom,a car,etc...)is not totally willingly,but not totally reluctantly,too.

Sara2001 I don't wanted to sound aggressive, maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive. I often have the same feeling when native Spanish people (not especially Ines) write in English. I think it would be good for the whole community when we keep in mind that English is not the first language for many of us

I'm not used well in german(and not much more in spanish),so I may feel it more aggressive than it was,yes.But,if you noticed it,you should take care to make clearer it was not aggressive,especially during an argument.

Sara2001 Of course not, but if I follow her arguments saying that there can't be a real person who is "forced" by parents with pressure or whatever and is not running away or calling the authorities, she would be a troll based on this definition, like you and me.

It is more a general statement,and each case is different,after knowing a bit more the poster.I'm too very careful about new users,always trying to guess if it is a potential troll or not(and,generally we can guess it better after some talks).

Sara2001 I agree with this part of the job, but I think an important part of trolls is that they come and go fast and that they rush things a lot, like getting a belt 2 days after the order and things like that. I am very sure that not everyone who has to wear the belt unwillingly and is not trying to destroy their familiy is automatically a troll.

No,but,as I said,we can not always know it after only one or two posts.Better be careful than letting too many trolls coming here.

Sara2001 becoming a small minority here

Not the case.

Angelina Most of the trolls write a maximum of 5 posts here, in which they try to bring in the extreme as much as possible. however, they usually disappear quickly if they get bored.

But I think it is partly too because we make them understand they're not welcomed,and several of us shows clearly we don't trust them.Or if we tell their other accounts name(some trolls made several ones,like Hanka).

Jen

Right!

Sara2001 I can honestly say that I am absolutely happy about my relationship with Daniel and I think it is difficult to understand for outsiders

What can be a bit shocking for readers is to notice it is now way stricter than what was planned at first.

Vanessa What can be a bit shocking for readers is to notice it is now way stricter than what was planned at first.

Yes, I can understand that. I never had the plan to be that submissive, but with all the trying and bootcamps, we where able to try things. I am very happy that I had the chance to explore these things without fear and I am sometimes as surprised about my feelings as you.

Sara2001

I think it is easier for users here since the start,or almost,as we can notice how it evolves,and make you happy,but for someone discovering it in only a few days,it can seems very hard.

Vanessa I think it is easier for users here since the start,or almost,as we can notice how it evolves,and make you happy,but for someone discovering it in only a few days,it can seems very hard.

Understandable.

Angelina i have a deep distrust towards the authorities who in my opinion are much more abusive than my father.

Quite. I also have experience in this regard. Unfortunately.

An for another example in a relatively well run country: [https://www.20min.ch/story/maedchen-8-schildert-wie-es-vom-vater-missbraucht-wurde-875007993947].

And to be honest @hornyaspie2, you sound rather naive after the ongoing Covid fiasko.

Sara2001 I don't wanted to sound aggressive, maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive.

Germans tend to be very direct and hierarchical.

This is why a lot of them have intercultural issues when communicating with other cultures.

Whereas a German just says "Nein" (no) an also German speaking Austrian will say "Schau mer mal" (let's see).

So if anybody uses English in German way this might cause a lot of friction.

So everybody please keep this in mind.

hornyaspie2 I'm Polish from Wroclaw, I don't look as gay, fortunley , i got argument one with my older bro, he supporter of abortion so i told that I'm gay, I just did it to piss him off, if he supports liberals he should support all

What a crazy discussion. Gay people don't harm anyone. Why shouldn't everyone do whatever he/she likes with whomever he/she likes until they are adults or (almost) the same age and it is consensual. It's not an illness but natural and they don't "infect normal people with gayness". This is just stupid. Nobody, including kid's becomes gay from seeing or beeing with gays, not even with father and father or mother and mother.

Why not let anyone do, think and feel whatever he/she prefers until it doesn't harm you. If you don't like to see it, look in another direction.

hornyaspie2 he supporter of abortion

OMG! Usually I do not like such people.
About gays, frankly, I do not care about them, but lately they are very tiring.
I did not ever discriminate a gay ( and same all the people that are in my circle), but a lot of gays insist heavily in be victims.... Similar to some feminists!

Ok, it is time to debunk some misconceptions.

reactionary69 Covid fiasko

There is no such thing as a covid fiasko unless you assume a no vax stance or a negationist stance, both of them are enough do declassify someone from person to non-person.

reactionary69 Enjoy your ignorance

Heh

reactionary69 And by the way most normal people like conservatives do not care about gays at all.

HEH

reactionary69 They just do not like their weirdness and mental health issues declared normal and then pushed into their face or anyones children.

So in the end they care and they even invented a world of consipration, uniting their irrational fears to a total ignorance about history of the world.

You know that since 1990 the World Health Organization took away Homosexuality from the mental illnesses list?
No, you do not know that or else you would have not wrote something like that.

reactionary69 Whereas a German just says "Nein" (no) an also German speaking Austrian will say "Schau mer mal" (let's see).

In Austria there exists a word called Nein and i heard it a lot during my last trip to austria.

So basically you are a conservative with zero culture about the things you like to have an opinion about and still you dare to call ignorant others in a smug way none the less.
Time to apologize, me think, ahrrr.

LoonyMel
Mel, in the point where he says that conservative do not care about gays, it is true.
That point does not have any importance for us.
That does not make you better or worse person.

hornyaspie2 And why you dad not like it ?

because he thinks it distracts me from more important things.

Vanessa But I think it is partly too because we make them understand they're not welcomed,and several of us shows clearly we don't trust them.Or if we tell their other accounts name(some trolls made several ones,like Hanka).

that's true, but i have used a different tactic so far. if i thought someone was a troll, i ignore him/her, which saves a lot of time and nerves.

Vanessa I think it is easier for users here since the start,or almost,as we can notice how it evolves,and make you happy,but for someone discovering it in only a few days,it can seems very hard.

I think so too, sometimes it is important to experience the development of some users in order to understand their decisions.

reactionary69

shake your head, just shake your head
the incompetence of many authorities (apparently not only in germany) is unbelievable.

reactionary69 So everybody please keep this in mind.

Nein

Sara2001 like if you don't want to meet next weekend just say "no" instead of "great idea, let's see if we can make it" if you already know you will not meet.

right, when it comes to organising my schedule i also prefer to have clear instructions

hornyaspie2 So did you cannot control yourself without the CB ? Did it compulsive or something?

no it's not compulsive, i'm not addicted to it either. and no i couldn't stop masturbating completely without a belt, but i doubt anyone can.