Jen Don't read the other threads here it's confusing and doesn't apply to you.

Basically we are saying the same!

    Jen i thank you and everyone else here for your answers! i definitely appreciate all the support im getting for this so TY
    im going to be talking to my mom about it in the next few hours and im going to be trying a more leaned back approach with just mentioning that my other sisters firstly to my knowledge dont have one and havent ever. then ill go to how i never generally leave the house anyway. then ill go to how ive always been pretty well behaved too and i do my chores and stuff. and lastly the big one is that a lot of people do say its illegal here butt hats more of a like, last resort type thing because i dont wana ruin my relationship with them and stuff. if theres a work around for this i definitely want that or to just convince her nicely that its not what id prefer. ill of course post updates when i have more info but thanks again for everyone replying wish me luck! i cleaned the house too before i went to sleep so theres a little butter to sweeten things up LOL

        vyktoryah its because they are above 18 im pretty sure

        Why is this a problem? As we can see here girls can be belted by parents at any age.
        In my opinion,your parents should started with your older sisters, because they are already guilty

            vyktoryah Good, just tell your parents that you are aware of the risks and that you saw the mistakes of your sisters and you will not repeat them. Also, you can tell them that it's very unfair to punish you for you sister's sins 🙂
            I think you need to show them that you need reassure them a lot

              im gonna just get right to it pretty much i asked her a bunch of times today and we ended up having like a 2 and a half hour talk straight about this and she evn called my dad during it. my situation is a bit more than i imagined BUT as of rn idk 100% if im wearing one or not but i know now that they are going to make an acccomadation with my sisters that if they want to live here rent free off my parents they need to wear a belt too. and my sister isnt allowed to have these dudes over anymore. regarding me though my mom says she wants me to use one and that it would keep me safe and stop me from even having any chance of making those mistakes even if she believes that i wont. i still really dont know why they ar epushing it for me to use it abunch but she said wed talk more tonight after work. she seems kinda okay with working something out i feel so ill just see what i can do ty everyone for ur support and ill post again soon as ik whats going on <3

                Laura
                yeah i only said that because like in my entire life my parents have always kind of held the "do what u want when ur 18" thing over our heads so i just assumed that was the case because my sisters get away with alot more than me BUTT it isnt the case ofc! as i posted about like 2 seconds ago they are gonna be using belts too

                    vyktoryah I had a feeling it might play out like this, which is why I said what I said. How have your sisters reacted to the news?

                    Also, do your mom or dad always stay at home?

                        MaximeJourennes ill definitely try my best to remember that because i know if they didnt care they wouldnt even be bothering with this and theyd just kick my sisters out. but they are really trying to make our lives different and they may not be the best but them trying is enough for me to respect them cuz IK being a parent definitely isnt easy lol theres no book or whatever to it andevery kid is different

                            James both my parents work all day unfortunately. my mom left late this morning but she usually leaves at about 8am and getsd back at like 6 pm and my dad leaves at 5am and gets back same time as my mom usually

                                vyktoryah Being working class parents is never easy, for sure. I am very curious how your sisters will take this news. Did your conversation discuss their 'extreme' issues and their trouble with discipline and consistency?

                                    James me too i definitely wonder how they will handle it as far as i know right now only i know about this happening. my mom though said its not really my business to know the specifics but she did say that they would not have a place to live if they dont make major changes.

                                        vyktoryah I'd honestly call and tell her, or call your dad and tell him it is your right to know the specifics - you won't tell your sisters if they don't want that - but you've not made the mistakes they have, nor have you agreed to this. So, like, spill.

                                        My general opinion really remains if they are going to do this, what are all these other rules (and don't get me wrong, rules are helpful, especially if you want to go to college debt free) they want to have?

                                        It's hard to say 'trust them' when they are what, 10 years short and 4 toddlers too late? Saying 'making major changes' is a nice phrase, but somewhat lacking in 'how'. Basic parenting here...It totally seems like they are making this up as they go along.

                                        This I guess is where you get to truly decide. Because you can always just refuse like Jen said, but Jen didn't have to live with the chaos you do. Or you can say, "OK, you don't know what you're doing - I know you have no true plans, so do you - and so I will agree to this if I get to help shape this so it's good for me, and good for the family."

                                            James i feel like youre onto something with the making this up as they go. not necessarily making it up but i think my mom and dad havent actually set their mind yet on what is 100% happening and my mom keeps telling me bits and pieces of it so its just all messed up rn but i agree i wana know the specifics bc this definitely involves me too. i dont think they have no idea what they are doing i think they just have bad communication skills is all. they tried to prevent my sisters from doing this and when i was younger i took money bribes to not tell my parents they had people over bc i just really didnt know the lengths to which it was going and how bad things would get. so its partly my fault too i guess
                                            my mom was also late for work when we were talking this morning though so im sure she will explain more tonight but i can still call her if you feel i should

                                                vyktoryah I think you might as well call her - it'll be easier to get facts out of her now, in exchange to offering not to warn both your sisters. It also gives you time to decide what your response will be.

                                                To explain the 'no idea what they are doing' - I mean they don't know how discipline actually works. Sure, they seem to have some thoughts about some plan, but you cannot simple tell someone, do advanced algebra OR ELSE and expect them not to fail. Discipline and punishment are not the same thing. So, really, I know it's tough but they need to accept and learn how to make strategies that work. Because lets also be real - they'll feel bound to adopt their grandkids if your sisters don't get their lives in some order. And if they don't adopt, your sisters have no real idea how to raise them firmly either, I'd have to guess.

                                                I've seen it. It's not pretty. Happened to a cousin - did drugs to beat of the depression, she eventually abandoned the kids, lived on streets, my aunt saw her while begging once and now she lies in a grave. Dramatic situation, but it happens, especially with opioids in the US.

                                                ...and well yes, taking bribes is bad, but they were older and knew better. And frankly your mom and dad lost any excuses at kid #1.

                                                    vyktoryah I have a different take to many of the people here, but I am of the opinion that locking BDSM devices on children (willingly or not) is child abuse. It is not okay for your parents to do this, they are making poor parenting decisions that can have long-lasting effects on your physical and mental health.

                                                    Any type of bribery or coercion is strictly illegal. For example, "We will buy you a car" or "You have to wear it or you won't go to college" or "We will kick you out"... all illegal.

                                                    Trying to hide metal bondage equipment in public is not something a child should have to endure, and being "outed" could lead to all sorts of legal ramifications for your family. Pennsylvania has mandatory reporting.

                                                    Be clear to your parents that what they are proposing is not okay. You hold all the aces in this situation and don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

                                                    If you have any doubts, call 1-800-932-0313 and speak to a professional. They are there to help.

                                                        Sin Any type of bribery or coercion is strictly illegal. For example, "We will buy you a car" or "You have to wear it or you won't go to college" or "We will kick you out"... all illegal.

                                                        Agree, and however it is not ethical.

                                                          Sin its like i said though i kind of have too many good things going for me right now to bring the law into this. my mother pays for the internet for pretty much me alone bc we have unlimited data for phone plans, the internet isnt really necessary for anyone but me. she just knows its basically my life and wants me to not be in constant agony all day with having nothing to do or whatever. and i also get an allowance which i pay my final fantasy 14 subscription with and my music app too. i feel that would all go away if i brogut the law into this and if the law decided i shouldnt live here then id end up in some place IDEK and that scares me. i dont have any close relatives in my state bc my parents are from texas
                                                          but i dont intend on just being forced into this or whatever she does seem willing to work stuff out with me which ill be calling her here shortly

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