Avery I don't know what I'm talking about so maybe this is silly but. In the movie Raging Bull the boxer did not want to ejaculate in the days before a fight. So, if enticed by his wife, he would get a pitcher of ice water and pour it over his genitals, thus killing the urge. Whatever the case he won most of his fights.

There's a lot of nonsense talked about masturbation, but one thing is true, (at least in my experience): Avoiding it really does give me a huge drive to succeed in all aspects of my life.

And I suppose this makes sense.... why bother doing anything if you've already fired up and exhausted your reward centres?

I don't know how much it is socially acceptable now to talk about such things, all I know is that I could smoke on a street corner! Lol.

      youdontknowme I would hope there are ways a young woman could restore her honor, such as finding a husband who will accept her despite her "troubled" past

      In order to maintain drama, I think marriage it is not forbidden, but it should not be a well societal accepted marriage. I mean, as you say, she is a lower cast.

      youdontknowme Another question is the nature of the virginity exam - the hymen seems most straightforward, but that can be broken without sexual impropriety.

      Yes, but it has two advantages, allows to have "more or less" control that any girl or keyholder cheat the system, and that girl has to be extremely careful. Probably any keyholder would allow her girl any "experience" knowing the much she is risking.

      Laura Then the law should be about virginity and I believe it's there in few countries

      Not really, @Laura , but even it is not perfect, is the easiest system. If I am the mother of a girl, even if she has a good behavior, as I know the dangers, I would be very strict with chastity belt due I do not want she spoils her life.

      But all about this "dystopia". You know only thing I support will be a mandatory wearing of chastity belt in University. Easy of checking and with nice consequences.

              Ines In order to maintain drama, I think marriage it is not forbidden, but it should not be a well societal accepted marriage. I mean, as you say, she is a lower cast.

              No opportunity for redemption? Talk about casting the first stone! That world seems ripe for a revolution.

              Ines and that girl has to be extremely careful. Probably any keyholder would allow her girl any "experience" knowing the much she is risking.

              Sounds like thigh bands would be in common use not so much to keep wandering hands in check, but to restrict physical activity.

                  youdontknowme

                  well, we got used to having to endure certain restrictions during corona. i don't really see the difference. if the government could find a reason why chastity belts are good and useful, they can enforce it. that's exactly how the government managed to do it with the masks at corona, i couldn't imagine that 2 years ago either. wait a few more years and chastity belts could also become a reality

                      Angelina well, we got used to having to endure certain restrictions during corona. i don't really see the difference. if the government could find a reason why chastity belts are good and useful, they can enforce it. that's exactly how the government managed to do it with the masks at corona, i couldn't imagine that 2 years ago either. wait a few more years and chastity belts could also become a reality

                      Eeek! Do you think over-population or farming insufficiency could ever lead to a literal governmental clamp down on sexual activity?

                          Angelina if the government could find a reason why chastity belts are good and useful, they can enforce it. that's exactly how the government managed to do it with the masks at corona,

                          Hmm. Not wearing a mask is perfectly obvious and makes enforcement easy. Other than being in a really good humor it's not clear to me how law enforcement would identify people who are getting themselves laid.

                              Jonas Eeek! Do you think over-population or farming insufficiency could ever lead to a literal governmental clamp down on sexual activity?

                              Honestly, while I do not want to derail this topic any more than I already have, it would be a refreshing change for western governments to discourage breeding for once.

                              Angelina well, we got used to having to endure certain restrictions during corona. i don't really see the difference.

                              "Having to endure" seems like a strong word for masks. I find it quite reasonable to wear them, in fact I have taken to wearing them more often than legally required, sometimes to the ridicule of otherwise reasonable people (who do wear their masks where required). I mean, I am already required to wear pants for the sake of my fellow citizens, what more is one tiny piece of fabric?

                              On the other hand, with some other restrictions, I very much begrudgingly obeyed them knowing that there was a specific and important cause and it would be for a limited time if society behaves reasonably. The latter portion has sadly become a very big "if", but I am glad that "not leaving the house unless absolutely necessary" and "only meet with one person who is not from your household" had quickly served their purpose.

                              I could see a justification for requiring chastity belts in public spaces (though not their continued wear once in the privacy of your home), mainly as a prevention for sexual misconduct, but considering how impractical chastity belts are that emergency removal is something that should always be on a belt user's mind, I do not see that becoming the norm any time soon.

                                    youdontknowme Honestly, while I do not want to derail this topic any more than I already have, it would be a refreshing change for western governments to discourage breeding for once.

                                    It's a serious issue, and one which in combination with environmental/farming pressure could conceivably lead to the fantasy dystopia being discussed here.

                                    On the wider topic; I think widespread chastity would be more likely through chemical or wetware intervention than metal belts.

                                    The latter could only possibly succeed where chastity belts had been heavily promoted both socially and as desirable fashion items. Until there's a "swoosh" on my new belt I won't believe it likely.

                                        Ines Of course a virginity exam should be absolutely mandatory in this scenario.

                                        What if she is not virgin?

                                          Jonas Personally, I consider chastity belts a much more attractive fashion style than prominent brand icons. It is a shame that so many people out there think differently.

                                          But yeah, if a government were to discourage population increase, it would start with economic methods (i.e. cut benefits for families), and then maybe sanctions against actually having children, like we have seen in China. Maybe promoting birth control. But limiting intercourse itself - only realistic after all those avenues have already been explored.

                                              youdontknowme Personally, I consider chastity belts a much more attractive fashion style than prominent brand icons. It is a shame that so many people out there think differently.

                                              So you're saying that you'd rather see the waist belt of a chastity belt stick out over the lowrider pants, than underwear sticking out with the brand name prominently visible? Yes, I can dig that 😮

                                                On both men and women. Would be an interesting time when "less conspicuous" becomes an argument against cages.
                                                Personally, I am not a fan of low-sitting pants at all though, but at least flashing a belt's waist band would be an upside.

                                                Jonas Until there's a "swoosh" on my new belt

                                                Isn't their slogan, "Just do it"? It seems a perfect combination with a branded chastity belt! 🤣

                                                    Jonas Now you are reminding me of an Epica song:

                                                    Go for it
                                                    Just do it
                                                    Walk my way just to serve me

                                                    Go for it
                                                    Just do it
                                                    Kneel for me and obey me

                                                      Jonas I would definitely classify masturbation as a potentially addictive behaviour, but I've not been convinced by arguments that such addictions always require therapy. People may smoke and over-eat because they are fruitlessly trying to fill gaps in their lives, but many also do these things simply because they feel nice.

                                                      I agree.

                                                      youdontknowme it is hard to classify it as addiction unless you spend so much time on it that it prevents you from doing other things.

                                                      Right.

                                                      youdontknowme Generally, I would say an addiction is an unnecessary something you compulsively do without really enjoying it.

                                                      Good definition,I think.

                                                      youdontknowme electronic tagging perhaps? Little RFID tags in the chastity belts (and authorized keys, and unlock licenses) so anyone passing within close proximity of a checkpoint can be scanned to ensure they are wearing the belt and leaving their key behind if they do not have a license with them.

                                                      Not a bad idea.

                                                      But it should include something to be sure it is the right person wearing it,that it is locked,and with the right lock

                                                      youdontknowme maybe some people are into the more hands-on option.

                                                      At least,it can be sure it is rightly locked.

                                                      youdontknowme a significant amount of the population deciding it was not as bad as they feared?

                                                      No chance if not mandatory and not without an incentive to wear it.

                                                      Ines the girl lose opportunities of achieving universitary studies, jobs with good societal consideration...

                                                      Very strict for a single mistake!

                                                      youdontknowme I would hope there are ways a young woman could restore her honor, such as finding a husband who will accept her despite her "troubled" past, or going through a state-sanctioned penance like what Vanessa talked about in another topic.

                                                      It would be better,yes.

                                                      Avery But he had found a way to make the behavior inconvenient and he did eventually quit.

                                                      Interesting to know it worked.

                                                      Avery

                                                      It's like professional athletes who should not have sex the day before a game(not sure it is true,however).

                                                      Ines but it should not be a well societal accepted marriage. I mean, as you say, she is a lower cast.

                                                      Like a misalliance?

                                                      Ines only thing I support will be a mandatory wearing of chastity belt in University

                                                      Even if not willingly(which would probably be the case for some women if mandatory)?

                                                      Avery

                                                      I agree,it is pretty different.

                                                      gwen

                                                      🤣

                                                                                    Vanessa Interesting to know it worked.

                                                                                    He cut from like 2 1/2 packs a day to less than one by using various devices like hiding them in the car. Once down to less than a pack he then had a decent chance of giving it up altogether. Took a couple of years overall.

                                                                                        Vanessa It's like professional athletes who should not have sex the day before a game(not sure it is true,however).

                                                                                        I don't know any pro athletes but I've never heard of a high school or college guy that I knew who practiced it. I think it relaxes me.